1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:19,640 The Big Short - Subtitles by AnnaGram - 2 00:01:21,140 --> 00:01:23,060 Hi ya Frank, how are the wife and kids? 3 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:26,520 You know, shouldn't y'all be considering treasury bonds or utility stocks? 4 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:29,340 In the late seventies 5 00:01:29,710 --> 00:01:32,740 banking wasn't a job you went into to make large sums of money. 6 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:35,800 It was a fucking snooze! 7 00:01:37,430 --> 00:01:38,860 Filled with losers! 8 00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:41,830 Like selling insurance, or.... accounting 9 00:01:41,950 --> 00:01:43,350 And if banking was boring... 10 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:45,750 then the bond department at the bank was straight up comatose. 11 00:01:45,870 --> 00:01:47,440 We all know about bonds.... 12 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:50,120 You give em to your snot nosed kid when he turns fifteen 13 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,070 Maybe when he's thirty he makes a hundred bucks. 14 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:53,390 Boring! 15 00:01:53,830 --> 00:01:56,210 That is until Lewis Rainieri came on the scene at Salomon Brothers 16 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,040 You might not know who he is 17 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,880 But he changed your life more than Michael Jordan, the I-Pod and Youtube put together! 18 00:02:10,510 --> 00:02:14,860 Hey Gentlemen, let's get some money in here. Let's make some money! What do you say?! 19 00:02:16,060 --> 00:02:19,840 You see, Lewis didn't know it yet, but he had already changed banking forever 20 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,900 with one simple idea. 21 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:24,130 The mortgage backed security. 22 00:02:24,250 --> 00:02:26,700 Or... Private Label MBS 23 00:02:27,070 --> 00:02:29,340 You got your average persons mortgage 24 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:33,050 fixed rate, thirty years, boring! Same, small payoff. Right! 25 00:02:33,170 --> 00:02:34,720 But...... 26 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:38,010 when you add thousands of them all bundled together 27 00:02:38,130 --> 00:02:41,730 suddenly, the yield goes up, but the risk is still small, because.... 28 00:02:41,850 --> 00:02:44,530 Well, they're mortgages, and who the hell doesn't pay their mortgage? 29 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:46,940 What exactly is the credit-rating on this bond? 30 00:02:47,060 --> 00:02:49,600 This bond gentlemen... Is AAA-Rating! 31 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,370 This is exactly what the Michigan State Pension fund has been looking for! 32 00:02:53,490 --> 00:02:56,720 I'll buy twenty million! - Oh come on, live a little! 33 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,830 Twenty five million! 34 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,840 The money came raining down! 35 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,850 And for the first time, the banker went from the country-club to the strip-club. 36 00:03:08,130 --> 00:03:10,940 Pretty soon, stocks and savings were almost inconsequential. 37 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:14,970 They were doing fifty, a hundred, two hundred billion in mortgage bonds 38 00:03:15,090 --> 00:03:16,970 and dozens of other securities a year. 39 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:29,530 And America barely noticed as its number one industry became boring old banking 40 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:37,260 And then... one day, almost thirty years later, in 2008 41 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:40,660 It all came crashing down! 42 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,230 Bear Sterns was in a death spiral and the FED brokered it's sale. 43 00:03:58,930 --> 00:04:04,420 In the end Lewis Rainieri's mortgage backed security mutated into a monstrosity that collapsed the whole world economy 44 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,760 And none of the experts, or leaders, or talking heads had a clue it was coming. 45 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,770 And I'm guessing most of you still don't really know what happened. 46 00:04:13,850 --> 00:04:16,510 Yeah, you got to have somebody to repeat so you don't sound dumb, but come on.... 47 00:04:16,630 --> 00:04:19,200 - Our financial institutions are strong! 48 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,350 But there were some who saw it coming. 49 00:04:22,780 --> 00:04:27,610 While the whole world was having a big old party, few outsiders and weirdos saw what no-one else could. 50 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:34,050 Not me, I'm not a weirdo, I'm pretty fucking cool, but... we'll meet again later! 51 00:04:34,170 --> 00:04:37,160 These outsiders saw the giant lie at the heart of the economy 52 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,850 and they saw it by doing something the rest of the suckers never thought to do. 53 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:43,170 They looked 54 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:50,150 The Big Short - Subtitles by AnnaGram- 55 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:58,670 Through the nineteen thirties.... 56 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:04,590 The housing market collapsed... nationwide. 57 00:05:06,690 --> 00:05:08,180 By approximately 8 percent. 58 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:14,140 And halve of all .. Eh ... worries that... it wasn't default. 59 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:16,950 There were.. Very...... 60 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:22,040 Specific identifiers. Extremely recognizable. 61 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:25,180 Wait... for instance 62 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:28,730 W-w-w-w one of the hallmarks of mania. 63 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:32,700 Is that rapid rise and complexity, and the rates... they are frauded 64 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:35,650 Did you know.... They're going up! 65 00:05:55,170 --> 00:06:00,030 I've always been.. More comfortable.. When alone. 66 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:11,420 I believe... maybe... it's because of... my glass eye. 67 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,080 I lost the eye... in a childhood illness. 68 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,330 Separates me from people. 69 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:30,150 Did you know... They're going up! 70 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,230 Highest frog-rates since the nineteen thirties. 71 00:06:37,010 --> 00:06:39,110 - No, I didn't know that. 72 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:44,960 I mean.. Ghe ghe ghe... nine ... nineteen thirty three 73 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,180 the fourth year of the great depression 74 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:52,510 - You were playing so great son, even heard the coach say it! 75 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,590 Can we just go home? 76 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:00,810 All social interf.. Actions are awkward for me and for the.... person 77 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:05,900 Even when i try to compliment... it somehow... it comes out wrong.... 78 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:10,560 You have a very nice haircut, you do it yourself? 79 00:07:10,850 --> 00:07:12,480 - Huh, What? 80 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:15,700 - No, i eh.... 81 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:25,650 I'm sorry... please... 82 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,060 Pffffff... 83 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:34,620 I'm going on and on. My wife told me i need to share more. 84 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,520 - That seems healthy. 85 00:07:50,830 --> 00:07:54,640 So .. I get the job? I really think i could help you fund. 86 00:07:56,090 --> 00:07:58,490 Yeah.... Yeah... sure! 87 00:08:02,010 --> 00:08:04,420 You're David!... David.... Great! 88 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:09,670 I guess I'll go find a desk. Is there anything you want me to work on for start? 89 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:13,970 Ehh..... Yeah. 90 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:15,450 - You could let me know later! 91 00:08:16,310 --> 00:08:20,180 D... d... d... did ya... did you 92 00:08:20,490 --> 00:08:22,440 Think it was strange when... 93 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,610 Ehm... 94 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:25,950 the tech-bubble burst in 2001 95 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:28,990 And the housing market in San-Jose. 96 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:31,360 Tech-Capitol of the world.... 97 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,900 Went up..... 98 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,780 it's strange... - No, no! 99 00:08:37,090 --> 00:08:40,000 It's housing... housing is always stable... low-risk. 100 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:42,520 That's the idea ... yeah. 101 00:08:42,740 --> 00:08:44,140 I want you to get me.... 102 00:08:44,510 --> 00:08:47,400 The ... eh.... Top-20 selling mortgage bonds 103 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:50,500 - So, you want to know what the top-20 selling mortgage bonds are? 104 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:54,690 No, no, no, i want to know what mortgages are in each one 105 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,250 - Wha.. Wait... - Aren't those mortgages made up of 106 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:02,600 - Wait... aren't those bonds made up of thousands and thousands of mortgages? 107 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,700 Yeah... 108 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:09,810 Right away, Dr. Burry. 109 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:32,980 Nice guy... all day long. 110 00:09:33,250 --> 00:09:35,930 Hmm.. Ask anyone... hmm, pleasure to work with. 111 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:41,410 The second my son screws up, 112 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,050 and... 113 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,430 You'll hang it to him... just like my dad did to me. 114 00:09:48,990 --> 00:09:50,930 You hear the words that are coming out of my mouth. 115 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,830 Sorry I'm late, no cabs! 116 00:09:55,330 --> 00:09:56,340 Aaaahh 117 00:09:56,690 --> 00:09:57,690 So get this.... 118 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,110 I met with this retail banker yesterday.. 119 00:10:01,870 --> 00:10:04,120 I'm supposed to be getting him to invest in a fund, 120 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,170 instead, i start drilling him about overdraft penalties 121 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:12,000 and how his bank will let customers write ten... twelve cheques 122 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,250 Before telling them they're overdrawing. 123 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,460 And this creep.... 124 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:16,930 is making billions off screwing over people this way. 125 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:20,010 And I'm getting madder and madder, and i ask him. 126 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:22,020 I look him in the face and i say: 127 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,480 How can you sleep at night, knowing... that you're ripping off working people. 128 00:10:28,070 --> 00:10:29,790 And know what he did.... He left! 129 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:32,430 He just walks out of the lunch, doesn't say a word. 130 00:10:32,830 --> 00:10:35,420 What the fuck is that? Who's fucked up in that scenario? 131 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,410 Am i? Or is this douche-bag? 132 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:40,600 Who leaves me hanging... Is he the fucked up one? 133 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,820 Trying to make me feel bad about myself! - We have talk about this numerous times 134 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,320 Fuck him! - You can't come in late and hijack the entire session! 135 00:10:46,570 --> 00:10:47,830 What do you mean, i didn't hijack the meeting. 136 00:10:47,970 --> 00:10:49,600 Did i hijack this session? - Yeah 137 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,470 What do you do? 138 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,620 I'm in commodities. 139 00:10:53,010 --> 00:10:54,000 Good luck with that! 140 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Marc... 141 00:10:55,630 --> 00:10:58,420 I know you've suffered a terrible loss, 142 00:10:58,540 --> 00:10:59,710 Do you want to talk about that? 143 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:00,800 I don't talk about that. 144 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,290 Hold on... 145 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:05,540 Hold on.. Shit.. I must take this, sorry! 146 00:11:05,810 --> 00:11:06,300 Sorry! 147 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:09,290 I don't care Porter... 148 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:13,250 This guy's whole business is build upon ripping people off, how long can that last? 149 00:11:14,220 --> 00:11:15,550 Bye everybody! 150 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,620 85... 151 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:20,830 That's 30 days late, that's 60 days late. 152 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:24,730 Pay on time. 153 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:29,650 These Fico-scores 154 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:39,050 They're caught up with their pants.... 155 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,460 30 days late... 156 00:11:40,580 --> 00:11:42,090 Loan to Value.... maybe 5 157 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:43,090 maybe 90 158 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:45,520 60 days late, jeez! 159 00:11:46,830 --> 00:11:47,830 I've never heard of that. 160 00:11:47,830 --> 00:11:48,740 30 days late 161 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,130 He hasn't moved all day. 162 00:11:58,530 --> 00:12:00,090 He does this every few days. 163 00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:02,730 Hasn't spoken to me since he hired me. 164 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:10,650 Michael, how are you guy?! 165 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:13,410 I've put out something really interesting... 166 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:17,100 Great Michael, whenever you find something interesting, we all sit to make money. 167 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:18,380 What stock are you vowing? 168 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:22,250 No, no, no no.. I wanna, i wanna short the housing market. 169 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:26,580 Really? But the housing market is rock-solid! 170 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:30,170 Greenspan just said: "Bubbles are regional, defaults are rare!" 171 00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:32,520 Tell em I'll be there in a minute 172 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:33,770 Say again! 173 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,550 Look... Greenspan's wrong! 174 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:38,980 Look, i don't think you mean to do this, but eh.. 175 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:42,050 Sometimes you sound very dismissive and superior. 176 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:45,740 It's a fact, Greenspan's wrong. I don't know how if you want your thr.... 177 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:47,610 Look, Michael... 178 00:12:47,730 --> 00:12:51,080 Metro Capitol backed you four years ago when you were a Doctor with a 179 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,660 dinky wet page and some inheritance money, 180 00:12:53,780 --> 00:12:56,080 We've all done very well, look... Why don't you just stick with stocks.... 181 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,400 You know me.... I, I, I, I, 182 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,360 I look for value, wherever it can be found. 183 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,290 The fact is 184 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:05,710 That these mortgage backed securities 185 00:13:05,830 --> 00:13:09,860 Are filled with extremely risky sub-prime adjustable rates. 186 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,680 And when the majority of these adjustable rates kick in.... in '07 187 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:16,390 They will begin to fail 188 00:13:16,510 --> 00:13:20,150 and if they fail above 15 percent the whole bond is worthless. 189 00:13:20,270 --> 00:13:23,530 - Michael, just take a beat, we'll talk about this later! 190 00:13:23,650 --> 00:13:26,450 Lawrence please, don't patronize me, if ... it .. Is... 191 00:13:26,570 --> 00:13:30,680 - Mortgage backed securities, sub-prime loans, tranches.... 192 00:13:31,550 --> 00:13:33,110 Is pretty confusing right? 193 00:13:33,230 --> 00:13:35,200 Doesn't it make you feel bored.... or stupid.... 194 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Well... it's supposed to. 195 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,340 Wall-street loves to use confusing terms, to make you think only they can do what they do. 196 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:44,310 Or even better..... 197 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:46,180 for you just to leave them the fuck alone. 198 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,310 So... here's Margot Robbie in a bubble-bath to explain. 199 00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:55,350 Basically, Lewis Rainieri's mortgage bonds were amazingly profitable for the big banks. 200 00:13:55,540 --> 00:14:01,220 They made billions and billions on their two-percent fee they got for selling each of these bonds 201 00:14:01,830 --> 00:14:05,260 But then they started running out of mortgages to put in them. 202 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:10,690 After all, there are only so many homes and so many people with good enough jobs to buy them... right? 203 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:16,050 So the banks started filling these bonds with riskier and riskier mortgages 204 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:17,330 Thank you Hendry 205 00:14:17,950 --> 00:14:21,360 That way, they can keep that profit machine churning right? 206 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:26,040 By the way, these risky mortgages are called: Sub-Prime. 207 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,560 So... whenever you hear sub-prime... think: Shit 208 00:14:30,450 --> 00:14:32,870 Our friend Michael Burry found out, 209 00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:34,490 that these mortgage-bonds 210 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:39,550 that were supposedly 65 percent AAA, were actually just, basically full of shit. 211 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:43,680 So now he's going to short the bonds 212 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,320 which means.... to bet against. 213 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:49,830 Got it?.... Good! 214 00:14:52,460 --> 00:14:53,780 Now fuck off! 215 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,950 It's only a matter of time before someone else sees this investment, we have to act now. 216 00:14:58,070 --> 00:15:00,040 How do you know the bonds are worthless? 217 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,100 Aren't they filled with fucking thousands of pages of mortgages? 218 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:04,980 I read them! 219 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,960 - You read them? I read.... Yeah! 220 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:11,980 No-one reads them, only the lawyers who put them together read them! 221 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:15,870 I don't think they even know what they've made 222 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,420 The housing market is propped up on these bad loans. 223 00:15:22,750 --> 00:15:24,790 It's a time-bomb and i want to short it. 224 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:27,040 Through what instrument Michael? 225 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:30,400 There are no insurance-contracts or options for mortgage-bonds. 226 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,890 The bonds are too stable! 227 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:33,280 Lawrence.... 228 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,050 This is what I'm gonna do.... 229 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:41,990 I am gonna get a bank to make me one. 230 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:43,990 Then..... 231 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:46,960 I'm gonna buy it. 232 00:15:48,140 --> 00:15:49,780 I don't want that kind of business! 233 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,980 Money is not money! That's bad money! 234 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:56,260 Hey... Excuse me! 235 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:02,660 Let me ask you this: What company treats its customers that shittily and succeeds? 236 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,390 Fine... OK... Goldman.... 237 00:16:05,510 --> 00:16:06,540 Without proving it 238 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:09,710 When he was a kid he excelled at studying the Talmud and Yeshiva. 239 00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:12,830 Whatever! But, one day his Rabbi told his mom why. 240 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:18,220 Paul is a fine boy and Mark is an excellent student of the Torah and the Talmud 241 00:16:19,290 --> 00:16:20,580 Then what's the problem Rabbi? 242 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,070 It's the reason Mark is studying so hard. 243 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:28,870 He's looking for inconsistencies in the word of God! 244 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:32,790 So has he found any? 245 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:37,130 Later Baum started his own fund on Wall-street. 246 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,290 He had an amazing nose for bullshit. 247 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:42,700 He wasn't afraid to let anyone know, when and where the bull had gone number 2. 248 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:47,330 Then a tragedy happened to Mark and it turned his whole world really dark 249 00:16:47,450 --> 00:16:49,420 and ready to believe the whole system was a lie. 250 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:50,390 Hold on! 251 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,300 It's Cynthia, I'll be in the office in twenty minutes. 252 00:16:55,380 --> 00:16:56,260 Hi Honey! 253 00:16:57,980 --> 00:17:01,300 The therapist called.... You did it again! 254 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:04,590 There were no cabs... What was i supposed to do? 255 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:06,540 I worry about you Mark! 256 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:07,380 At least I went! 257 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:12,610 You're running around like you have to right every wrong in the world. 258 00:17:12,730 --> 00:17:14,590 Ok... Fine! How angry 259 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,870 You know what... I'm a mean guy and I'm pissed off! 260 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:24,250 But... It is a shitstorm out here sweetie. You have no idea the kind of crap people are pulling. 261 00:17:24,370 --> 00:17:27,610 And everybody is walking around like they're in a goddamn Enya-video. 262 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:29,930 They're all getting screwed you know! 263 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:32,700 You know what they care about? They care about the ballgame! 264 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:35,470 Or they care about what actresses went into rehab! 265 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:37,970 I, I think you should try medication! 266 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:40,960 No, no, we agreed, if it interfered with work. 267 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:43,620 You hate Wall-street, but maybe it's time to quit? 268 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:45,750 I love my job! - You hate your job! 269 00:17:45,870 --> 00:17:47,670 I love my job! - You're miserable! 270 00:17:47,790 --> 00:17:50,490 I love my job, I love my job honey! 271 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:51,400 Mark! 272 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:56,110 I am sad every day about what happened. 273 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:59,320 I know you must feel the same, but you never show it! 274 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:08,550 I know how close you were to your brother. 275 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,630 CAB! 276 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:15,490 Where'd ya go pal? 277 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:21,660 CAB! 278 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,890 Everyday i think you're gonna talk about it, and you're gonna do! 279 00:18:34,450 --> 00:18:38,030 Will you ever think about the idea of making a change? 280 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:42,450 Fine, fine, honey, you know what, i will consider it, but honestly.... 281 00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:44,740 Cynthia I'm OK, I really am! 282 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:47,050 Hey, Hey! No, no, my cab! 283 00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:49,980 That's my cab, that's my cab, That is my cab! 284 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,330 Schmuck! Fuck you! - Fuck you! 285 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:55,850 I'll call you later. 286 00:19:03,220 --> 00:19:06,850 I wanna buy.... swaps on mortgage-bonds 287 00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:09,890 Credit default swap, that will pay off... 288 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,430 If the underlying.... bond fails. 289 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,200 - You want to bet against the housing market? Yes 290 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:17,230 Why? 291 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:21,190 Those bonds only fail if millions of Americans don't pay their mortgages. 292 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:23,280 That's never happened in history. 293 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,750 If you'll excuse me Dr. Burry, that seems like a foolish investment. 294 00:19:27,070 --> 00:19:32,170 Based on... prevailing sentiment of the market and banks, and popular culture... 295 00:19:32,290 --> 00:19:35,280 Yes, it's a foolish investment. But eh... 296 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Everyone's wrong... 297 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:39,580 That's a good one. 298 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,160 This is Wall-street Dr. Burry, if you offer us free money, we are going to take it 299 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,130 My one concern is, is that.. Eh.. When the bonds fail.. 300 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,230 Eh... i want to be certain, 301 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,080 of payment, in case of solvency issues with the bank. 302 00:19:59,170 --> 00:20:00,750 - I'm sorry, are you for real? 303 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:04,530 You want to bet against the housing market, and you're worried we won't pay you? 304 00:20:04,650 --> 00:20:05,740 Yes.. That's correct. 305 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:10,300 Listen.. I don't think this will work ..... 306 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,740 the market on housing is never gonna crash 307 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:23,800 this is all rock-solid by now 308 00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:26,730 it wouldn't even if we wanted it to. 309 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,820 Kinda hard one to deal with... 310 00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:32,400 did he awestruck you? - Mmhhhh. 311 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:40,460 Dr Burry, we could work out a pay-as-we-go structure that would payout if the bonds fail. 312 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:43,690 But it would also apply to your payments if the value of the mortgage-fund goes up 313 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:45,660 You'd have to pay us monthly premiums. 314 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:48,730 Is that acceptable Dr. Burry? 315 00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:53,330 Yes.. It is, Yes. 316 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,790 Em.. I have prospectuses on, 317 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:59,260 six mortgage-backed securities i want to show you 318 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:06,110 The majority of them are accepted mortgages. 319 00:21:33,290 --> 00:21:35,210 Dr Burry, these should be fine! 320 00:21:35,740 --> 00:21:40,260 We're prepared to sell you 5 million in credit default swaps on these mortgage-bonds. 321 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,900 Can we make it a hundred million? 322 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,110 Absolutely! We can make it one-hundred million. 323 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:52,410 We'll be in touch, send some paperwork over. 324 00:21:56,150 --> 00:22:00,470 I like these cups, could i take one for my son? - Have one, Yes, Yes! 325 00:22:00,590 --> 00:22:01,660 Thank you! 326 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,290 Have two! 327 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Is there any way to do two-hundred million? 328 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,220 We can... But are you sure? 329 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:34,760 Absolutely... Absolutely, we can! 330 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,080 - We do, eh... different projects we do gardening, we do 331 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,530 the bonds.... I'd like to .. Eh... 332 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:56,880 - It's not bad for yourself to be found extreme 333 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,090 It's very cool! 334 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,970 Hey Randall, what's with the Dom? Bonuses aren't for three months. 335 00:23:34,090 --> 00:23:38,040 We just sold 200 million in credit-swaps for mortgage-bonds 336 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,690 Some fund-manager from California, it's fucking crazy right?! 337 00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:43,440 Only way to make money dog! 338 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,350 - I didn't know there were swaps on mortgages 339 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:47,980 There are now, we made it for him! 340 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,710 His head must have caught up with his hole or do something... I don't know. 341 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:52,960 Want one? No? 342 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:54,280 Awwwww 343 00:23:54,550 --> 00:23:55,280 Jared 344 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,390 Did you hear about the deal that Randall did with some fund-manager? 345 00:23:58,510 --> 00:24:00,690 Randall? Bullshit! 346 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,050 He's a foot-soldier, I'm sure it's a shit deal. 347 00:24:03,170 --> 00:24:03,890 No, It's for real! 348 00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:06,680 I told you we'd meet later. 349 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,260 Unfortunately... It's in a place like this, which i would never be in. 350 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:13,360 I never hung out with these idiots after work, Ever! I had fashion friends. 351 00:24:14,150 --> 00:24:16,880 Apparently this guy wanted two-hundred mill in credit default swaps. 352 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,400 Randall made the sale, can you believe it? 353 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,660 Somebody shorted two-hundred mill in mortgage bonds? 354 00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:23,000 That was just with Deutsche... 355 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,390 Word is... he had half the town. 356 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:27,000 How much in total? 357 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:28,820 1.3 billion 358 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:29,630 - What? 359 00:24:30,370 --> 00:24:32,930 That's... that's pretty much all of Scion's liquidity! 360 00:24:33,050 --> 00:24:34,740 Michael, this is highly distressing! 361 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:38,380 Lawrence.... That is not all of our liquidity! 362 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:42,270 And I'm not certain that you really understand this trade. 363 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:43,710 This is a certainty. 364 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:46,480 Mike, i consider myself a mentor to you. 365 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,950 But our company is not comfortable with this investment. 366 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,810 Am i being clear? - Lawrence 367 00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:56,010 I have full autonomy when it comes to investment strategy 368 00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:57,600 You can read our agreement. 369 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,470 Do not throw our acception-agreement in my face Michael! 370 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:04,570 We had an underlying understanding, you wouldn't act like a goddamn crazy man! 371 00:25:04,690 --> 00:25:05,960 This is not crazy.... 372 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:08,080 it's all very logical. 373 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,790 So now we pay up premiums on these swaps against housing-market until the mortgages fail? 374 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:14,720 In other words... 375 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,140 we lose millions until something that has never happened before... Happens? 376 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,090 That's correct! 377 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:59,290 - Hello Mark Baum Oh hey Kathy! 378 00:25:59,410 --> 00:26:02,320 It wasn't me, I had a personal thing this afternoon. - I'm not your babysitter. 379 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840 If your appoint makes money for Mark and Sally I'm happy! 380 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,410 OK... Hey did I hear you're expecting? 381 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:08,810 Ehh, we're expecting to be expecting... 382 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:11,210 I'd be upset clearing this out, but we're .. - That's exciting! 383 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:17,700 Lump.. In my ball 384 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,990 I'll go in for a scan - Hmm 385 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:23,930 Turns out i have large thing, called an epididymis 386 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:26,610 Which is a thing that goes around the ball 387 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:28,470 And is like a sack underneath. 388 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:33,460 I have an extremely pronounced epididymis - Enriveted that is. 389 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:37,330 Almost as large as another testicle on itself 390 00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:40,020 So get this.... Cynthia.. Guys! 391 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:43,660 Cynthia wants me to quit! And open a B&B in Vermont. 392 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,950 That's great! I'd love to see Mark Baum run a Bed and Breakfast! 393 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,530 Like: Here's your steel-cut oatmeal asshole! 394 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:52,390 Mark refused to kiss the ring of the people with the checkbooks, 395 00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:55,180 so he had to set up his fund under Morgan Stanley's umbrella. 396 00:26:56,050 --> 00:26:58,970 His small team reflected his... distrust of the system. 397 00:26:59,090 --> 00:27:00,600 You guys are sick.. You're sick! 398 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,540 She says, this job is making me unhappy. 399 00:27:02,910 --> 00:27:04,100 - But you're happy when you're unhappy! 400 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:05,380 I am happy when I'm unhappy! 401 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,750 Bennie Daniel - You know how to make a muffin? 402 00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:09,290 Mark's numbers guy. 403 00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:11,100 Do you even know how to do laundry? Make a bed? - Okay! 404 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:13,710 Bennie lost his father to a violent crime when he was young 405 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:15,590 Just like Mark, he didn't talk about it. 406 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:17,210 - I don't talk about that! 407 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:19,360 Cynthia's no joke, she could actually make him move to Vermont! 408 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,120 I mean, she made me start wearing a suit. 409 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:25,300 Porter Collins, former Olympic rower, went to Brown. 410 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:28,960 He worked with Baum at a previous firm, and couldn't figure out why no-one listened to Baum. 411 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,790 The guy with all the good ideas. 412 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,030 Sir, yeah, i know, do you have the wrong Front-Point? Cause there is another Front-Point in this same building that is Baum's 413 00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:39,370 And Danny Moses, the optimist of the bunch. 414 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,740 And a hell of a trader, which is the only reason they put up with his bullshit optimism. 415 00:27:44,380 --> 00:27:48,400 You're a weird caller, you take longer with a wrong number than anybody else 416 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,000 I mean... it's this guy... from... Deutsche, who was talking about shorting housing bonds. 417 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,070 And then, in the middle of the call where I had realized he had the wrong Front-Point. 418 00:27:58,190 --> 00:28:01,120 And then... and then... cause he wanted the one on the eighth floor. 419 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,160 He wanted to short housing bonds? - Hmmm 420 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,670 - It happens like five times a day, that somebody uses the wrong front-point. 421 00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:07,300 We should change our name! 422 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:09,680 Wait, wait... He wanted to short housing bonds? 423 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:11,390 Who bets against housing? 424 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,390 What's the ABX at? 425 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:18,360 What's ABX? - It tracks sub-prime mortgage bond value. - Go back to sleep! 426 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:21,400 The ABX is at ... eh.... 427 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,110 Wow! It's down, It's down 3 points since last year, that's weird. 428 00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:26,600 I haven't heard a peep about that! 429 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,530 What was this guys name? Jared Vennekt... Vennett 430 00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:33,180 That's right! These lucky sons of bitches caught wind 431 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:37,020 of one of the best trades in Wall-street history from a wrong number. 432 00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:39,790 They should've paid 10 percent to my Fox ticket system. 433 00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:41,830 He was Jared Vennett, Vennett 434 00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:45,550 Jared Vennett, from Deutsche, sounded very sketchy. - Sounds like a douche-bag. 435 00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:59,570 OK.. Hi.... how are you?! - Have a seat! 436 00:28:59,690 --> 00:29:03,610 Hey mister Vennett from Deutsche Bank, what do we have? 437 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,780 So, how many people have you talked to about this trade? - A few. 438 00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:18,030 There's definitely some interest. 439 00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:18,470 Ohh.. 440 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,000 My boss would have my ass 441 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,000 are you crazy Jer? 442 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,580 Get lost! 443 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:22,560 Fuck you! 444 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:25,880 Which is why you're here talking to us on the wrong number? 445 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Sounds like there's a lot of interest. - Alright. 446 00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:32,760 A few people had invited us in, just to laugh at me on this deal, is that you? 447 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Is that what this is? 448 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,050 That's not what this is, that's just how Mark is. 449 00:29:36,850 --> 00:29:37,700 Let's see what you got. 450 00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:40,300 I'm sorry, do you smell that, what is that? - What? 451 00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:42,570 What's that smell? - Cologne? 452 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:44,720 No.... 453 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:47,370 Opportunity! 454 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,400 No... Money. 455 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,280 I smell money... 456 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,380 Chris.... 457 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,030 goddammit! - I'm sorry. 458 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,170 This is your basic mortgage bond. 459 00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:02,820 Alright, the originals were simple. 460 00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:06,600 They were just thousands of AAA-mortgages bundled together, 461 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,560 guaranteed by the US-government. 462 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,320 The modern ones are different. 463 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,990 They're private. And they're made up of layers of tranches. 464 00:30:18,910 --> 00:30:21,170 Highest level AAA's getting paid first. 465 00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:24,100 The lowest rated B's getting paid last, taking on defaults first. 466 00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:27,280 No obviously if you're buying B's you could make more money. 467 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,910 But, they're a little risky, sometimes they fail. 468 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:33,100 Chris... 469 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:41,670 Somewhere along the line, these B's and BB's went from a little risky to dogshit. 470 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:43,360 Where's the trash? 471 00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:47,410 I'm talking rock-bottom Fico-scores. 472 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:50,570 No Income-verification. 473 00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:53,840 Adjustable rates... Dogshit! 474 00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:58,760 The default-rates are already up from one to four percent fellas. 475 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,430 And if they rise to eight percent... and they will! 476 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,040 A lot of these BBB's are going to zero too. 477 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,170 And that.... You're too close... 478 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,070 Is an opportunity. 479 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:13,160 OK, You're saying that at 8 percent the bonds fail and we're already at 4 percent? 480 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,930 That's right. - If they go to eight.... It's Armageddon. 481 00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:18,950 Yeah that's right. - How come nobody's talking about this? 482 00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:20,680 And you're completely sure of the math? 483 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Look at him... 484 00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:24,210 That's my Quant! 485 00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:25,280 - Your what? 486 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,690 My quantitative... My maths specialist! Look at him! 487 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:32,430 You notice anything different about him? Look at his face! 488 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:35,570 Look at his eyes! I'll give you a hint.. 489 00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:36,960 His name is Yang! 490 00:31:38,660 --> 00:31:41,540 He won a national maths competition.. In China! 491 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,910 He doesn't even speak English! 492 00:31:44,650 --> 00:31:46,290 Yeah! I'm sure of the math. 493 00:31:48,030 --> 00:31:49,740 Actually, my name is Jeong, 494 00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:51,730 and... I do speak English 495 00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:55,300 Jared likes to say it though.. Because he thinks it makes me seem more authentic 496 00:31:55,420 --> 00:31:58,600 And... i got second in that national math competition 497 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,940 So.... You're offering us a chance to short this pile of blocks? 498 00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:02,830 How? 499 00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:06,010 With something called a credit default swap. 500 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,080 It's like insurance on the bond, and if it goes bust, you can make 10-to-1. 501 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,830 Even 20-to-1 return, and it's already slowly going bust. 502 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:17,370 10-to-1, 20-to-1.... No way! 503 00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:19,000 And no-one is paying attention. 504 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,340 No-one is paying attention. 505 00:32:22,790 --> 00:32:27,280 Because the banks are too busy getting paid obscene fees to sell these bonds. 506 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,820 But wait.... You are the bank 507 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:32,130 You work for the bank, i bet your margins are pretty nice and fat. 508 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:34,180 Let's not talk about my margins by the way. 509 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,650 Being nice and fat.... That's a nice shirt, do they make it for men? 510 00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:39,220 Aren't you the bank? 511 00:32:39,340 --> 00:32:40,250 I work for the bank! 512 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,170 I don't think like a bank 513 00:32:42,290 --> 00:32:44,370 Big banks, small bank... I like to make money. 514 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,090 Alright... Let me put it this way.... 515 00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:49,010 I'm standing in front of a burning house, 516 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:51,760 And I'm offering you fire insurance on it 517 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,510 - How can these underlying bonds be... as bad as you say? 518 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:55,490 It wouldn't be legal! 519 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Nobody knows what's in them! 520 00:32:57,780 --> 00:32:59,450 Nobody knows, what's in the bonds, 521 00:32:59,570 --> 00:33:02,250 I've seen some that are 65 percent AAA-rating. 522 00:33:02,660 --> 00:33:07,110 That i know, for a fact, are filled with 95 percent sub-prime shit. 523 00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:08,910 With Fico's below 550 524 00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:10,080 Get the fuck out of here! 525 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,370 Want me to really blow your mind? 526 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:14,440 When the market deems a bond too risky to buy, what do you think we do with it? 527 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,700 Take a guess! 528 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:18,060 I don't know, you tell me! 529 00:33:18,340 --> 00:33:19,160 Alright... 530 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,530 You think we just warehouse it on the books? 531 00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:24,800 No, we just repackage it, with a bunch of other shit that didn't sell 532 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,520 and put it into a CDO. 533 00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:29,430 A CDO? - Yes... a CDO. 534 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:30,450 What is that?W 535 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,660 Where we take a bunch of B's, BB's and BBB's that haven't sold, 536 00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:35,450 and we put em in a pile... 537 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:41,500 and when the pile gets large enough, the whole is suddenly considered 'Diversified'. 538 00:33:41,910 --> 00:33:43,840 And then... the whores of the rating agency, 539 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,130 Give it a 92 / 93 percent AAA-rating, no questions asked... 540 00:33:50,110 --> 00:33:52,420 Holy... what! Say that again! 541 00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:54,950 Collateralized Debt Obligations 542 00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:58,070 It's important to understand, because it's what allowed the housing crisis 543 00:33:58,190 --> 00:34:00,560 to become a nationwide economic disaster. 544 00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:04,780 Here's world-famous chef Anthony Bourdain to explain. 545 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,810 OK, I'm a chef on a Sunday-afternoon setting the menu of a big restaurant. 546 00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:17,080 I ordered my fish on Friday, which is the mortgage-bond that Michael Burry shorted. 547 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,310 But... some of the fresh doesn't sell.. 548 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:21,080 I don't know why, maybe it just came out, 549 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,750 halibut has the intelligence of a dolphin. 550 00:34:22,870 --> 00:34:24,500 So... what am i gonna do? 551 00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:28,970 Throw all this unsold fish, which is the BBB-level of bond, in the garbage? 552 00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:30,120 And take the loss? 553 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,740 No way! 554 00:34:32,860 --> 00:34:35,230 Being a crafty and morally honorous chef that i am... 555 00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:39,840 Every crappy levels of the bond i don't sell... i throw into a seafood stew. 556 00:34:40,110 --> 00:34:43,640 It's not old fish! It's a whole new thing! 557 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,610 The best part is.... They're eating retailed halibut! 558 00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:49,170 That... is a CDO. 559 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:52,160 I just need to know how these could possibly be correlated. 560 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,700 You're like D- D- Dora the Explorering, you're the first person who has found this... 561 00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:59,090 So.. Hold on.. So mortgage bonds are dogshit? 562 00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:01,850 CDO's are dogshit wrapped in catshit. 563 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,470 Yeah... that's right! 564 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:08,320 Institutions treat these CDO's like they're as solid as treasury bonds. 565 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,420 And they're going to zero.. 566 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,030 No, that can't be right, there, there, are 500 billion in housing bonds sold last year alone 567 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:18,340 The ratings agencies, the banks.... the fucking government? 568 00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:20,560 You're saying they're all asleep at the wheel? 569 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,140 Yeah! My whole department is long on this stuff. 570 00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,790 They call me chicken little. 571 00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:29,310 They call me Bubble-boy. 572 00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:33,340 A's ... Zero. 573 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,850 B's.. Zero, BB's ..... Zero. 574 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,940 BBB's .... Zero. 575 00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:42,300 And then that happens! 576 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,820 What... is that? 577 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,920 That's America's housing market. 578 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,760 Thank you. - Fucking A Jared! 579 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,650 Shut your fucking mouth! 580 00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:09,850 Bye Jared! 581 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,750 I don't like it! 582 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,490 He's playing us. 583 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:24,170 He's playing us, he's got too much skin in the game, and he's dumping his position. 584 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:26,590 What if he's right? 585 00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:29,410 You want him to be right! - Yes, I do! 586 00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:33,610 The banks have given us twenty-five percent interest rates on credit cards. 587 00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:36,670 They have screwed us on student-loans, so we can never get out from under. 588 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:40,140 Then this guy, walks into my office and says: 589 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,260 "Those same banks got greedy, they lost track of the market" 590 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:45,610 And i can profit off of their stupidity 591 00:36:45,730 --> 00:36:47,220 Fuck! Yeah! I want him to be right! 592 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:51,130 I mean, how come you don't hate this guy? He's everything you taught us not to trust! 593 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:54,840 You can't hate him! He is so transparent in his self-interest that i kinda respect him. 594 00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:57,200 Would i buy a car from him?... No! 595 00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:02,320 Is he right about the mortgage market? Let's find out. Let's find out! 596 00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:05,700 Look... It's two very simple questions: 597 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:09,510 Is there a housing bubble? And if there is... how exposed are the banks? 598 00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:13,640 Let's get on this quickly too, because if he is right... 599 00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:17,500 Every loser with a couple million bucks in a fund is gonna be jumping on us. 600 00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:19,110 Let's go! 601 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:30,330 J.P. Morgan-Chase, J.P. Morgan-Chase. 602 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,440 OK.. Don't!... Stop Saying J.P. Morgan-Chase! 603 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,070 I got a good feeling about this 604 00:37:36,190 --> 00:37:38,960 Just a meeting though, you know... It's just a meeting! 605 00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:41,910 People have meetings all the time... You know! 606 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:43,880 People drink their coffee, they have a meeting... 607 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,930 Brownfield Funds? - Yes! Yes! 608 00:37:46,210 --> 00:37:49,410 Hey! Hello... Ted! Chris... I 'm on Ted's Desk. 609 00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:53,070 I'm Charlie, I'm Charlie Geller, I'm Jamie, Jamie Shipley.. Hi! 610 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:57,050 We're so excited to get setup on your trading platform! 611 00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:58,910 Here, eh.. Have a seat a second. 612 00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:00,700 Alright! 613 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,910 So I... Ted did ask ehm.. To do us some meeting in front. 614 00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:07,770 But I eh... I couldn't find any marketing material on you guys.. 615 00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:11,340 Oh... we just moved here from Boulder. 616 00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:13,650 Oh, can we see some of your offering documents? 617 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:16,410 Well Brownfield has it own... money... 618 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:18,740 It's our money... Yeah. 619 00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:21,020 Well can you tell us how much you manage? 620 00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:24,290 Of course! We're doing 30 million right now.... eh... 621 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:28,250 But we started four years ago, with a hundred-ten thousand. 622 00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:29,830 Wow! - So as you can see, 623 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:33,340 that's pretty phenomenal returns. 624 00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:35,910 We wanna get an ISDA-agreement with J.P. Morgan, 625 00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:38,230 So we can deal in long-term options. 626 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,260 - That's really cool! Yeah! 627 00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:54,990 That is so cool! 628 00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:56,410 Thank you! 629 00:38:56,530 --> 00:39:00,650 But eh.. You guys are under the capitol requirements for an ISDA. 630 00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:02,310 By how much? 631 00:39:02,770 --> 00:39:04,030 Er.. How much eh... 632 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:06,600 One billion four-hundred-seventy millions 633 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,070 So... 634 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,890 A lot! 635 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,450 This makes us look bad doesn't it? 636 00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:15,560 That we didn't know what the capitol requirements were. 637 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,670 I..... eh.. 638 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:18,620 It's not great! 639 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,990 But, eh..... 640 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,770 Keep up those returns 641 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:24,990 And give us a call way down the line you know? 642 00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:25,810 OK? 643 00:39:25,930 --> 00:39:27,580 OK, of course! Thanks Chris! 644 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:29,390 Have a good one guys! - Thank you Chris! 645 00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:34,520 Shit! 646 00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:40,400 Who the fuck schedules a meeting at 4:50 in the afternoon? 647 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:45,000 Dude, B of A and Bear didn't even return our calls 648 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,740 and even fucking Morkovia blew us off! - I know man! 649 00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:53,350 Here's the prospectuses of all the other losers who didn't make it past the lobby. 650 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,830 I don't think i can do this anymore.. 651 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:57,730 Yo, I'm young yet, i can still do something with my life! 652 00:39:58,090 --> 00:40:00,610 I miss Colorado anyway. The weed's better! 653 00:40:01,090 --> 00:40:03,320 Gentleman... i need you to leave! 654 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,820 Yep, Yeah we're going, Let's go! 655 00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:06,410 Look at this, Look at this! 656 00:40:06,850 --> 00:40:10,240 This guy says that the housing market is a giant bubble! 657 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,980 OK, so this part isn't totally accurate. 658 00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:19,340 Now, we didn't find Jared Vennett's housing bubble pitch in a lobby of a bank that rejected us. 659 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,930 Truth is... ehm.. A friend had told Charlie about it 660 00:40:23,050 --> 00:40:25,240 And I read about it, in Grand Central's trade observer. 661 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,430 This is crazy! 662 00:40:26,830 --> 00:40:29,740 This is..... crazy stuff! 663 00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:31,800 Shit! Here they're saying that there's 10-to-1 returns, 664 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,180 on Credit Default Swaps for mortgage backed securities 665 00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:38,500 and the whole housing market is about to collapse. 666 00:40:39,110 --> 00:40:43,770 For Jamie and Charlie, the housing market doomsday prediction was music to their ears! 667 00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:53,360 They had started working out of Jamie's garage, 668 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,670 with a 110 thousand Jamie had saved taking sailboats up and down the east-coast. 669 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:01,160 Our investment-strategy was simple. 670 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,560 People hate to think about bad things happening so they always underestimate their likelihood. 671 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,740 Their strategy simple and brilliant. 672 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,790 What he said! 673 00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:14,780 Jamie and Charlie found: Markets will sell options very cheaply on things they think will never happen. 674 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:17,800 So, when they were wrong, they were wrong small. But when they were right....... 675 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,990 They were right big! - Boooooom! 676 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:28,920 Within a few years they had turned a 110 grand into 30 million 677 00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:33,440 Then it was time to go to New York City, And so far..... It wasn't going very well 678 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,010 So what if it does seem interesting? 679 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:37,230 Nope, no bank will give us our ISDA. 680 00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:39,040 We're dead in the water... 681 00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:43,070 These kind of trades are totally out of the question! 682 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:44,640 - We gotta call Ben! 683 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:46,940 Pffff 684 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,550 Call Ben! 685 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:52,150 Ben Ricker was a former trader in Singapore for Chase. 686 00:41:52,270 --> 00:41:54,100 Quit the whole game in disgust! 687 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,810 He just happened to be Jamie's neighbor when they were in Colorado 688 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:58,640 and they met, walking dogs.... 689 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,240 But Ben was dark... 690 00:42:00,490 --> 00:42:02,320 He didn't just think the whole system would fail 691 00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:04,360 He thought the whole world was going down! 692 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,870 This salad's .... Oh.. Hmmm good! 693 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:09,540 You know, every one of these vegetables is fresh from my garden 694 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,840 You guys should start your own garden! 695 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,750 What you gotta do is get your soil off petrol chemicals, 696 00:42:16,330 --> 00:42:20,360 Use wood-ash and urine, help destroy the soil, creates mono-nitrate, 697 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,270 Seeds are gonna be the new currency! 698 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:27,070 And not those Frankenseeds from Monsanto, I'm talking about good healthy organic seeds. 699 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:29,640 Make yourself a garden, learn to live off the land! - A fucking lunatic! 700 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,780 Ben had real experience in a big bank, 701 00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,550 Jamie and Charlie, never even been in a Manhattan bank bathroom! 702 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:39,040 But Ben was done with the banking world, he was very clear! 703 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,920 Do you realize that? - Alright, let's crunch some numbers, 704 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,430 Then maybe we'll talk about calling Ben - I don't wanna crunch the numbers, 705 00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:45,780 When haven't we crunched the numbers? - Seriously guys! 706 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:48,620 - I need you out of here Of course, Yes Mam! 707 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:50,990 One second! - We're going, we're going! 708 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:55,410 Oh god, i hate this! This is a total waste of time! 709 00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:57,260 Come on! Would you relax! 710 00:42:58,310 --> 00:43:01,610 I think this is a housing development about forty-five minutes outside of town. 711 00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:03,360 Mark wants us to check that out first. 712 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,590 I hope there's some Cuban restaurants on the way there, 713 00:43:05,710 --> 00:43:08,140 because i heard the Cuban food is amazing in Miami. 714 00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:10,970 Please don't be Chipper in the face of me being miserable! 715 00:43:11,090 --> 00:43:12,650 It really makes me hate you! 716 00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:15,720 How is wanting to eat good food, being Chipper? 717 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:18,640 Hello? 718 00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:21,000 Hello? 719 00:43:48,350 --> 00:43:49,700 What's up man? What do you want? 720 00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:53,600 Hello, I'm surveying mortgage owners who are over 90 days delinquent 721 00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:55,340 I'm looking for a Harvey Humpsy 722 00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,340 You want my landlord's dog? 723 00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:01,980 Your landlord filled out his mortgage application using his dogs name? 724 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,300 I guess so! 725 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,400 Wait, has that asshole not been paying his mortgage? 726 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,880 Coz, I've been paying my rent! 727 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,900 Well, yeah he is over 90 days delinquent 728 00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:12,320 Seriously man! 729 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:13,980 Am i gonna have to leave? 730 00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:19,420 My kids just got setup in this school man! 731 00:44:19,820 --> 00:44:21,500 Hey.... How are ya? 732 00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:24,900 My name is Ken! - You're Ken? 733 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:27,100 Ehm.. You should talk to your landlord about that 734 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,700 I'm sorry i don't have anymore information, but you ehm.... 735 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:32,640 You have a great day! Cya Ken! 736 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:34,800 There's books everywhere! - Books everywhere? 737 00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,020 Seriously... Is everything gonna be ok? 738 00:44:39,340 --> 00:44:41,620 You should call... You should call him! 739 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,320 You should give him a call! 740 00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:45,320 It's not my fault dude! I've been paying! 741 00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:50,220 Hello! 742 00:44:54,340 --> 00:44:56,160 I think somebody just left 743 00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:59,360 All they took was the TV. 744 00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:01,100 It's weird! 745 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,080 They didn't even clean up the counter 746 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,180 Oh, god! 747 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,960 It's like Chernobyl! 748 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,380 It's like a hundred houses, it can't be four people living here. 749 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,880 No, fuck that! - Shit! 750 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,960 He's been there for seven hours 751 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,460 What is he looking at? - I heard he had a breakdown! 752 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,700 Just let him is what i think 753 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,080 Dr. Burry's office 754 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,320 No, he actually prefers that you e-mail him. Excuse me! 755 00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:09,800 Hey Lawrence! 756 00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:17,880 We have no confidence in your ability to identify macro-economic trends. 757 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:21,920 You flew here to tell me that? Why? 758 00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:25,220 Every, E- E- Anyone can see there's a real-estate bubble 759 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,020 Actually no-one can see a bubble, that's what makes it a bubble 760 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,160 There's still warns! 761 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,940 There are always markers! 762 00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,180 Mortgage fraud 763 00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:41,040 Quintupled since 2000 and the average take-home pay is flat, but ... 764 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,840 Home-prices are soaring, that means the homes are dead, not assets 765 00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:47,540 So Mike Burry of San Jose, a guy who.... 766 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,120 gets his haircut at Supercuts, and doesn't wear shoes, 767 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,000 knows more than Alan Greenspan and Hank Paulson.... 768 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,760 I haven't talked to Hank, but yes he does. 769 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,200 That's cute, that's cute! Are you being sarcastic with us Mike? 770 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:10,940 Lawrence.... I don't know how to be sarcastic! 771 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,240 I don't know how to be funny 772 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,840 I don't know how to ... work people.. 773 00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:20,320 I just know how to read numbers! 774 00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:22,880 How big is your short position right now? 775 00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:24,480 Eh.... 776 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,700 1.3 billion 777 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,980 And the premiums? 778 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,900 Eh, we pay ... eh... roughly... 779 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,560 80 to 90 million 780 00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:37,480 Each year, which is surprising, because i was the first to do this trade 781 00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:40,680 Watch, It will pay! I may have been early, but I'm not wrong! 782 00:47:40,820 --> 00:47:43,700 It's the same thing! It's the same thing Mike! 783 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,920 You're managing a fund of what? 555 million? 784 00:47:48,740 --> 00:47:52,100 In six years, it will all be gone! 785 00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:53,960 On one bet 786 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,880 The second quarter of '07 is when the adjustable rates kick in! 787 00:47:58,020 --> 00:47:59,680 And then the defaults will skyrocket! 788 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,180 Yeah, says you! 789 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,300 How much is eligible for withdrawal before they're due? Say in the next two quarters. 790 00:48:06,340 --> 00:48:08,080 If your investors panic 791 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,860 Three-hundred-and-two 792 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:16,260 My god Mike! 793 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,000 No-one will pull out, that would be suicide man 794 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:28,100 Down 17 percent for the year, but if they trust me, and they trust me! 795 00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:30,860 No-one trusts you! 796 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,880 No-one! - I've sent several e-mails to my investors 797 00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:35,340 Letting them know that the.. The.... 798 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,880 It's the second quarter of '07 is when our housing positions show returns 799 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,180 and ehm... I've been very clear! 800 00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:48,220 People will withdraw their money! 801 00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:52,540 Why? You'd have to be so stupid! 802 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:56,220 If, if if the funds capitol drops too much.... 803 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,740 then the swap's contracts are voided 804 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,180 and then the banks.... 805 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:05,140 get to keep all of it, all of it! 806 00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:06,640 The contracts are voided? 807 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,080 The contracts are voided!?! 808 00:49:10,340 --> 00:49:11,760 Holy shit! 809 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,600 O, motherfucker! 810 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,700 Michael.... 811 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:17,040 Give me my money back. 812 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:24,040 Michael, do you hear me? I want my money back! 813 00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:28,460 Give me my fucking money back! 814 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,320 You motherfucker! 815 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,860 The market is in an itsybitsy little gully right now 816 00:49:35,980 --> 00:49:39,880 Like everybody said: "OK, that was crazy, let's just all calm down!" 817 00:49:41,860 --> 00:49:45,540 I sold that house for 350, the year it was built. 818 00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:50,700 Two years later... 480, then 585, maybe eighteen months ago. 819 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160 This couple bought it for 650 last year! 820 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200 He'd let it go for that.... Hi John! 821 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,160 It will break his heart, but he'll let it go 822 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,400 Why is he selling? 823 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,760 Neither one is working right now 824 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,980 Surely, they're motivated right? 825 00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:11,360 As motivated as one can be in this neighborhood. 826 00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:14,560 This house on the left, I'd say they're properly motivated. 827 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,360 Wow! A lot of people seem very motivated. 828 00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:20,320 It's just a gully that's all. Just nerves 829 00:50:21,140 --> 00:50:22,640 So... where do we stand? 830 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,440 I need to talk to my wife 831 00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:27,820 ehm.. This market won't last! 832 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,760 Actually, can i talk to a mortgage broker? Anybody you recommend? Anybody you like? 833 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,620 Yes, yes, There's someone, absolutely! 834 00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:36,520 Yeah, bitch better like me, sent her ass to Cabo! 835 00:50:38,060 --> 00:50:41,100 So is Morgan Stanley recruiting us? Is that.. 836 00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:44,020 No, eh no. The bank owns our hedge-fund 837 00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,900 We're not really a part of it, we invest in financial service companies. 838 00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:50,580 We're trying to understand the residential mortgage business. 839 00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:52,820 How many loans do you write each month? 840 00:50:53,660 --> 00:50:55,100 I don't know, about six 841 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:56,460 What was it four years ago? 842 00:50:57,820 --> 00:51:00,500 Ten.... but maybe fifteen. 843 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,660 I was a bartender, now i own a boat! 844 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,960 So, how many of these are eh.. Adjustable rate mortgages? 845 00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:08,120 Well, most. 846 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,940 Yeah, I'd say about ninety percent 847 00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:14,160 The bonuses on those skyrocketed a few years ago 848 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,680 Adjustables are bread and honey 849 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,980 So, do applicants ever get rejected? 850 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,540 Seriously? 851 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,440 Look if they get rejected I suck at my job! 852 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:28,180 Even if they have no money? 853 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,240 Well, my firm offers a N.I.N.J.A. loan. 854 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,280 No Income No Job Application, I just leave the income-section blank if i want. 855 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,420 Corporate doesn't care. 856 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,060 These people just want homes, and they go with the flow. 857 00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:43,320 Your companies don't verify? 858 00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:48,940 If I write a loan on Friday afternoon, 859 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,520 Big bank is gonna buy it by Monday lunch. 860 00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:53,540 Deal! Same here! 861 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,700 Could you hold on a second? - Yeah 862 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,340 I don't get it... Why are they confessing? 863 00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:10,120 They're not confessing.... They're bragging! 864 00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:23,080 Do people have any idea what they are buying? 865 00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:26,460 I focus on immigrants! 866 00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:29,700 Once they find out they're getting homeless.. They'll sign where you tell em to sign. 867 00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:32,240 They don't ask questions, don't understand the rates. 868 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,100 And you target them with red soup? 869 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,160 Their credit actually isn't bad enough for him. 870 00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:41,320 Look I'm a yield guy 871 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,720 I make two thousand on a fixed rate prime 872 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,100 But i CAN make ten thousand on a sub-prime adjustable 873 00:52:51,380 --> 00:52:53,860 Trust me, I'm not driving that 7-series.. Without strippers 874 00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:57,400 No-one on the pole has good credit, and they're all cash-rich. 875 00:52:57,860 --> 00:53:00,140 I think I read Warren Buffett said something like that 876 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,880 Who's Warren Buffett? 877 00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:06,960 OK, So, strippers.... like exotic dancers... 878 00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:08,540 Nude, 'n all... 879 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,420 Topless.. 880 00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:11,200 Strippers? - Yeah, Hmmmm. 881 00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:16,940 Can you introduce us? Yes! 882 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:18,280 Yes! 883 00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:24,040 I always get option to pay adjustable. I'm a private contractor. 884 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,400 Can't hear you, I'm sorry! 885 00:53:25,540 --> 00:53:29,760 I always get option to pay adjustable, I'm a private contractor, i need the flexibility. 886 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:32,220 And you tell the mortgage company what you do? 887 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,720 I write: Therapist 888 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,100 You can touch me! - Always? 889 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,820 Only in V.I.P. 890 00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:40,340 No, no, no you say you always do adjustables 891 00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:42,360 And you have more than one loan on a property? 892 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,640 Everybody does! 893 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,520 At least down here - I'm sorry what? 894 00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:48,400 Everybody does! At least down here 895 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,300 That way you'll only put down like five percent 896 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,540 Well prices have leveled off though, right? 897 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,200 Yeah, it's a gully 898 00:53:54,580 --> 00:53:57,780 Would you mind not moving anymore? I'll still pay you! 899 00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:04,580 Sorry... We're not alone. 900 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:07,460 OK, look.. If home-prices don't go up, 901 00:54:07,540 --> 00:54:09,620 You are not going to be able to refinance 902 00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:11,260 And you're going to be stuck paying 903 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:15,520 whatever your monthly payment is once it jumps up, whenever your TISA-rate expires 904 00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:18,480 Your monthly's could go up two- to three hundred percent! 905 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,480 James says i can always refinance! 906 00:54:20,660 --> 00:54:22,620 Well... He's ... A liar. 907 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,920 Actually in this particular case, James probably is wrong. 908 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,940 Two-hundred percent? 909 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,480 On all my loans? 910 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,320 What do you mean? All your loans? We're talking about two loans on one house right? 911 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,700 I have five houses 912 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,080 And a condo.. 913 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,540 Hey, there's a bubble! 914 00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:42,240 How do you know? 915 00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:43,680 Trust me. Call Vennett, 916 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,840 Buy 50 million in swabs on the NBS 917 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,560 What do we got? - Garibaldi's are BBB! 918 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,840 Mark, are you sure? 919 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:52,440 Yeah, yeah! It's time to call bullshit! 920 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,460 Bullshit on what? 921 00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:54,900 Every fucking thing! 922 00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:21,880 Front-Point, Front-Point! 923 00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:24,740 Is this America's angriest hedge-fund? 924 00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:27,320 Hi listen, I got one last question for you 925 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,320 How are you fucking us? 926 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,000 There's a nice way to say that Vinnie... 927 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,200 I'm serious 928 00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:37,780 We'll buy your swaps, but only if you say how you're fucking us. 929 00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:40,400 I'm not fucking you Vinnie, I'm kissing you 930 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:43,600 I'm looking deep into your eyes as i make love to you Vinnie. 931 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,780 I'm handing you the deal of the century on a fucking platter! 932 00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:48,000 What do I get out of it? 933 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,860 Easy.. I got a 20 million a month negative carrier 934 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,280 I got bosses trying to pull the plug, because they're thinking I'm out of my fucking mind 935 00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:56,560 Alright? 936 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,180 We make this trade, those problems aren't so big anymore 937 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,880 And sure... Swaps are a dark market so... 938 00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:05,640 I set the price, whatever price i want. 939 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,780 And when you come for the payday, I'm gonna rip your eyes out 940 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,540 I'm gonna make a fortune 941 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,460 But the good news is Vinnie, you're not gonna care 942 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,160 Cause you're going to make so much fucking money! 943 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:15,700 That's what I get out of it 944 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,260 Wanna know what you get out of it? 945 00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:20,220 You get the ice-cream, the hot-fudge, the banana and the nuts! 946 00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:22,500 Right now I get the sprinkles 947 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,020 And yeah.... if this goes through... 948 00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:25,640 I get the cherry. 949 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,100 You get the sundae! 950 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:32,980 Alright, I'll buy that. 951 00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:34,580 Thank you! 952 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,280 So what do you say? 953 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,660 Want me to make you a market? 954 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,520 We'll take 50 million 955 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,500 Garibaldi-4 Triple-B 956 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,420 Sharpen your pencils, I'll get the paperwork ready 957 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,300 Aahhh... Fuck you too! 958 00:56:52,340 --> 00:56:53,720 YES! 959 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,300 That's right! 960 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,760 He has so many numbers, and i always forget, 961 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,980 Which one he prefers, cause he's very specific! - Just pick the first one 962 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,600 I don't know if it's the first one - Just try it! 963 00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:11,640 OK 964 00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:31,140 Ben Ricker 965 00:57:31,220 --> 00:57:32,700 Hey Ben it's Jamie! 966 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,780 Jamie, you know you're not supposed to use this line. 967 00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:39,820 Told ya... 968 00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:44,220 OK, let's try number two out of fourteen. 969 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,940 Ben Ricker 970 00:57:57,020 --> 00:58:00,440 Ben, why do you do that man? You're a retired trader, ok.. 971 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,800 No-one is listening to your calls! - The NSA has a 52 billion dollar budget 972 00:58:02,980 --> 00:58:06,000 and the ability to tens of millions calls a second, you think they're not using it? 973 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,920 OK, I promise i will refrain from saying, 974 00:58:10,020 --> 00:58:13,200 Ben Ricker and dirty bomb in the same sentence 975 00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:16,100 Jesus! - I'm sorry dude! 976 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,280 Ben Ricker 977 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,620 Did you get a chance to look at what we sent you Ben? 978 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,060 It's Charlie.... I'm here too! 979 00:58:23,860 --> 00:58:26,240 Hi Charlie, Yeah I did, Hold on! 980 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,460 Ben, you still there? 981 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,320 Yeah 982 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,520 I'll be honest gentlemen 983 00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:39,040 you scared the shit out of me! 984 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,300 That's a good thing right? That means that this Vennett guy is not wrong! 985 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:45,720 No, he's not! 986 00:58:48,740 --> 00:58:49,340 Cool 987 00:58:49,460 --> 00:58:50,720 Tell me more about these CDO's 988 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,780 Yeah yeah, ehm, OK Vennett mentioned the CDO's, but actually, 989 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,220 We took a look and they're way worse then even he realizes - These things don't even make sense Ben. 990 00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:03,660 We can't even model them - It's a hundred times bigger than the NBS 991 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,400 and ninety percent AAA-rating? 992 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,500 Yes, over ninety percent - It's incredible! 993 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,540 Yeah, I took a good hard look at the CDO's you want to short. 994 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,660 They're brilliant! Worthless, total crap! 995 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:17,980 Jamie, very good! 996 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,500 What can i say.. I, I'm, I'm, good at finding shit! 997 00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:26,080 So Ben, we shorted the BB's and the BBB's, and the risk is relatively low, 998 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,940 Pay-off is like 25-to-1 999 00:59:31,580 --> 00:59:33,540 OK, so why are you calling me? I don't do this anymore! 1000 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,520 Look, Ben... 1001 00:59:36,220 --> 00:59:39,000 We need you to help us get the ISDA. 1002 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,620 If we get a hunting license, we can short this crap 1003 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,640 We know you hate Wall-street, we're not asking you to do the trading 1004 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,040 We're simply asking you to... 1005 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,660 To help us. 1006 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,580 To get a seat at the fucking table 1007 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,560 It's a pretty ugly table guys 1008 00:59:55,020 --> 01:00:00,060 Look Ben, the system fucked up in a big, big way here, OK? 1009 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,740 And somehow... we, eh.. Know before anyone else. 1010 01:00:05,580 --> 01:00:08,440 You know, this is a once in a lifetime deal! 1011 01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:12,280 I'm thinking 1012 01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:19,040 OK, I'll call Deutsche Bank 1013 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,520 Thank you Ben! 1014 01:00:21,140 --> 01:00:24,400 Oh and Bear, what about Bear? They have some reprehensible product! 1015 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,480 - OK, Bear will trade with anybody! 1016 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,620 I'll see if i can push it through 1017 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,340 And oh, thank Jared for us. 1018 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,840 We couldn't go inside? 1019 01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:11,020 Hi, it's Mark, I need to talk to Vinnie right now! 1020 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,960 Wait a second 1021 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,400 How it is that you are fucking us, Cause what we are seeing here, 1022 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,400 Morgan Stanley building fast! 1023 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,800 Are we all jocks at the same computer-screens? - Can we talk to one person please? 1024 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160 OK, yeah. - What do you mean, you're in the tower? 1025 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,760 Vinnie, are you there? 1026 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,660 Mark, are you there? Hello? - Yeah, Yeah, Did you hear? 1027 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,600 Mortgages defaults have gone through the roof! 1028 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,420 Anybody jumping off the building yet? 1029 01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:40,400 Why would they? Sub-prime mortgages are up? 1030 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,900 What? - Vennett wants 1,9 million more in collateral by-close 1031 01:02:45,060 --> 01:02:46,480 Vennett's asking us to post collateral 1032 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,940 What the hell is going on? 1033 01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:49,840 We don't know, but Deutsche is on the phone demanding payment 1034 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,760 Call Vennett, call that little shit! - Call Vennett! 1035 01:02:52,820 --> 01:02:53,820 Tell him to get his ass down here 1036 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,960 So, sub-prime loans go bad, 1037 01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:59,140 but sub-rime bonds, which are made up of sub-prime loans, are more valuable? 1038 01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:01,600 They want another 1.9 million by market close 1039 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,400 What about the ratings-agencies? Moody's, S&P? Are they downgrading the CDO's or mortgage-bonds 1040 01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:09,240 Where are the ratings-agencies at? - They're the fucking same! 1041 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,620 Nope, They're all still Triple-A! 1042 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:11,640 What the hell! 1043 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,280 Are you fucking kidding me? Those fuckers, those motherfuckers! 1044 01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:18,280 They go public and all the care about is their bottom-line and their shit! 1045 01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:19,780 Mark, that's not all... 1046 01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:23,120 The Morgan Stanley risk-guys are here - They called in Kathy Tao 1047 01:03:23,220 --> 01:03:25,340 I'm trying to convince her to make her sell us swaps 1048 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,020 Apparently eh, tying up six years of insurance payments 1049 01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:30,900 with hopes of a housing-Armageddon is not prudent investing. 1050 01:03:30,980 --> 01:03:32,120 What did Kathy say? 1051 01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:34,920 Nothing yet, she keeps asking if this is one of your crusades 1052 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,120 OK, I want you to walk back in there and very calmly, very politely 1053 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,140 Tell the risk-assessors to fuck off! 1054 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,620 And then meet me over at Standard & Poors, we're gonna talk to Georgia 1055 01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:49,740 Get that fuck Jared Vennett in this office I want to bash his fucking head in 1056 01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:55,800 Uh, gentlemen... 1057 01:03:56,620 --> 01:03:58,000 I spoke with Mark Baum 1058 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,840 He says: to fuck off! 1059 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,300 I don't see a damn thing. 1060 01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:19,360 Aaah, my eye-doctor is always busy 1061 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,860 I end up taking any appointment and my whole morning gets shot to hell! 1062 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,460 So... 1063 01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,120 Alrighty 1064 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,180 Front-Point Partners 1065 01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:33,700 How can Standard & Poors help you? 1066 01:04:34,580 --> 01:04:38,640 Well, we don't understand why the ratings-agencies haven't downgraded sub-prime bonds 1067 01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:41,060 since the underlying loans are clearly deteriorating 1068 01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:45,920 Well, the delinquency-rates do have people worried, but they're actually within our models 1069 01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:46,720 So 1070 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,240 Says you? 1071 01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:53,000 You're convinced the underlying mortgages in these bonds are solid loans? 1072 01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:56,160 That is our opinion yeah. - Oh crack the tape! 1073 01:04:56,460 --> 01:04:58,240 Have you looked at the loan-level data? 1074 01:04:58,580 --> 01:05:01,860 What you think we do here all day? - They're giving these loans to anyone with a credit-score and a pulse 1075 01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:04,260 Excuse sir! What do you think we do here all day? 1076 01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:05,460 Not sure, I guess that's why we're here. 1077 01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:06,380 Here's what I don't understand 1078 01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:07,640 We can't re-recheck and then check again! 1079 01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:11,600 If these mortgage-bonds are so stable, so solid 1080 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,380 Have you ever refused to rate? 1081 01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:16,440 You're delusional! - We stand behind it Georgia! 1082 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,360 Have you ever refused to rate any of these bonds upper-tranches AAA? 1083 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,600 Can we see the paperwork on those? 1084 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:27,020 Oooh, I'm under no obligation to share that information with you, whoever you might be. 1085 01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:30,300 Just answer the question Georgia, can you name one time in the past year? 1086 01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:35,200 Where you checked the tape and you didn't give the banks the AAA-percentage they wanted? 1087 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,240 If we don; t give them the ratings, they'll go to Moody's right down the block. 1088 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,820 If we don't work with them they will go to our competitors 1089 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,560 Not our fault, simply the way the world works. 1090 01:05:53,620 --> 01:05:55,420 Holy shit! - Ah yes, now you see it! 1091 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,120 And I never said that! 1092 01:05:59,420 --> 01:06:00,580 You're selling ratings for fees 1093 01:06:01,660 --> 01:06:02,300 A ratings shop 1094 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,880 You could afford to make less, make less. 1095 01:06:05,660 --> 01:06:06,820 Nobody said that! 1096 01:06:07,620 --> 01:06:09,840 And it is not my decision, I have a boss. 1097 01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:13,200 Are you kidding me? - No I am not kidding you! 1098 01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:16,500 Is that the angle you're taking? 1099 01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:18,360 So now anybody who has a boss, 1100 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,660 Can't be held responsible for doing shitty and illegal things! What are you? Four? 1101 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:24,800 No, eh, eh, I am not four! 1102 01:06:25,540 --> 01:06:27,340 Mister Baum, I am not, no! 1103 01:06:27,780 --> 01:06:30,840 And I wonder, I wonder, what your incentives might be. 1104 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:35,100 Is it maybe in your best interest to have the ratings changed? Is it, perhaps? 1105 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,120 How many credit default swaps do you own? 1106 01:06:42,260 --> 01:06:43,660 Doesn't make me wrong 1107 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,780 just makes you a hypocrite! 1108 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,200 Raaaaaahr! 1109 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,360 Mortgage-delinquencies went up and the CDO's got more valuable, unbelievable! 1110 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,780 We know, it's completely backwards! 1111 01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:39,140 I just called an old friend at Bear he didn't even know what a CDO is. 1112 01:07:39,140 --> 01:07:43,680 Yeah, I just had to wire Bear and Deutsche seventy thousand dollars 1113 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,980 It's like two plus two equals... 1114 01:07:46,780 --> 01:07:47,340 Fish! 1115 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,280 Great! 1116 01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:50,160 You bought into a rigged game 1117 01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:54,180 We lose everything.. I'm gonna have to move back in with my mom! 1118 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,340 Can't do that 1119 01:07:56,780 --> 01:07:58,260 Well, alright i got a colonic in a couple of mins 1120 01:07:59,140 --> 01:08:00,240 Wait a minute, hold on! Ben! 1121 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,500 Ben, look! 1122 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:07,320 Either the banks are clueless and they don't know how to value these CDO's or... 1123 01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:13,300 they're suck crooks that... the CDO's are worth shit, and they're hiding it! 1124 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,200 I think we should buy more swaps! 1125 01:08:18,660 --> 01:08:21,460 What? - Suck it up and pay up fellas we made a deal 1126 01:08:21,580 --> 01:08:23,560 No way, No! 1127 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,500 Are you fucking kidding me? You come in here you fucking fucking! - You're a fuck, how do you even seriously? 1128 01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:30,100 No, no, no! - Yeah! 1129 01:08:30,180 --> 01:08:36,440 You're unbelievable! 1130 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,580 No, no, no! 1131 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,280 Seriously, colonic once a year! 1132 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,740 Ass! - You got a matching little butler-boy you butt-fuck! 1133 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:48,740 Are you done? 1134 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,220 Think so yeah - God i pulled a muscle in my bowl from yelling 1135 01:08:55,260 --> 01:08:57,820 Mortgage defaults have done nothing but go up! 1136 01:08:58,980 --> 01:09:01,420 Yet you quote us a higher price on the bonds 1137 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,960 Please explain that to me! There's no way that makes sense! 1138 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,260 There's no way you're marking these swaps appropriately! 1139 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,380 I mean, why shouldn't we back out of this trade right now? 1140 01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:16,720 Didn't I say, that when we made this deal, that the rating-agencies, the SEC 1141 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,000 and the big banks were clueless! Didn't I say that? 1142 01:09:19,860 --> 01:09:21,900 Didn't I say it? - Yes you did, you did! 1143 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,400 Shut up! 1144 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,400 Now their foot's on fire and they think their steak is done, and you're surprised? 1145 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,680 That's not stupidity... that's fraud! 1146 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,600 Tell me the difference between stupid and illegal and I'll have my wife's brother arrested. 1147 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,380 That was funny! - I guess you just don't realize how clueless the system really is! 1148 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,020 Yes, there's some shady shit going down! 1149 01:09:43,020 --> 01:09:46,180 But trust me, it's fueled by stupidity! 1150 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,660 Look at yourselves! 1151 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,180 You know you passed yourselves off as cynical people but.... 1152 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,180 You still have some faith in the system don't you? 1153 01:09:55,820 --> 01:09:56,460 I don't 1154 01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:58,120 Well, except for Vinnie! 1155 01:09:59,100 --> 01:09:59,700 Who gives a shit? 1156 01:09:59,980 --> 01:10:01,480 No way! - Look! 1157 01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:04,880 Either we're right, or we're wrong in a giant, giant way! 1158 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,340 And if we're wrong then we gotta find someone to help us get out of this trade 1159 01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:11,500 I'm not feeling remotely confident that we're right 1160 01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:13,560 And, and... If we're wrong 1161 01:10:14,060 --> 01:10:18,100 Who's gonna tell us? Who understands this stuff? It makes no sense! 1162 01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:22,480 I think we need to go to Vegas! 1163 01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:24,560 What's in Vegas? - Vegas? 1164 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,680 What the hell is in Las Vegas? 1165 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,860 The American Securitization Forum is there next week 1166 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,600 Every bond and CDO-salesman, sub-prime lender and swap-trader is gonna be there 1167 01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:37,020 I'm telling you 1168 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,980 Your bet is against their money, 1169 01:10:38,980 --> 01:10:41,900 it's about time you find out just how dumb that money really is 1170 01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:42,920 God no, I hate Vegas! 1171 01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:45,980 I hear the food has gotten really good in Vegas, they have a Nobu now 1172 01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:47,840 could you fucking stop! 1173 01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:36,940 ...in a sense? - If the bond is rich, it is. 1174 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,560 Rich just means overpriced 1175 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,860 I can't sleep on a plane so I did my homework - OK, let's focus! 1176 01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:44,340 What's our goal? 1177 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,680 Figure out if this is a deal of a lifetime or... 1178 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,840 everyone knows here something we don't and we're gonna get royally screwed 1179 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,500 Right, remember that when you meet with guys from Bear! 1180 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,660 I'll set you up with a face-to-face 1181 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,060 Awesome, where is that? 1182 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,460 Holy shit! Five years ago Securitization was a loser-convention 1183 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,740 a hundred, maybe two-hundred people would show 1184 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,020 500 billion dollars a year later, you get this! 1185 01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:07,780 There's a lot of smuck-looking people in here huh!? 1186 01:12:07,780 --> 01:12:11,240 It looks like someone just hit a piƱata that was filled with white people who suck at golf 1187 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,280 I mean, who are all these clowns? - Ah come on, I think it looks fun! 1188 01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:17,280 Charlie, Vennett says these are the people we're betting against. 1189 01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:21,860 Yeah, here we go Chris on my left, Chris, on my left! 1190 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,660 Gentlemen! - When do we get a chance to face-time with some of these lovely folks? 1191 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,220 Chris, give em the key-cords! 1192 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,040 Do you even know which key-cords you're giving out? 1193 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,660 First of all, how was your travel? - Uneventful? 1194 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,100 Uneventful! - OK, I've been here for six hours! 1195 01:12:36,260 --> 01:12:39,980 I've already been to the Gym, I had two poached eggs, and I played blackjack with Harry Dean Stanton 1196 01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:41,400 Thank you for your diary! 1197 01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:44,800 Face-time! I'd like some face-time! - Just remember, we're here just to gather information! 1198 01:12:45,140 --> 01:12:48,400 We're gathering information, we're not advertising our short-position! 1199 01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:50,960 Right? We don't want to spook anybody! Can we do that? 1200 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,480 You got a big mouth, and you like to run it 1201 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,200 Can you just keep it shut for a few minutes? - OK, OK! 1202 01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:56,920 Yeah, don't worry, we'll play nice! 1203 01:12:57,180 --> 01:12:57,960 Ladies and gentlemen! 1204 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,600 Business is good! 1205 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,580 Profits are strong! 1206 01:13:02,580 --> 01:13:07,780 And the mortgage continues to be the bedrock on which this economy is built. 1207 01:13:12,740 --> 01:13:16,440 Yes, we had to take some losses in our sub-prime department last year, 1208 01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:19,940 But those losses, will be contained at only five percent! 1209 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:20,860 Now 1210 01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:22,760 In our residential sector... 1211 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:23,940 Mark, it's not a Q&A! 1212 01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:27,160 Of those variable rate-packages were gobbled up by the 1213 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,920 I have a question please! 1214 01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:36,680 Sir, the Q&A is after my statement, but you know what, you seem anxious! 1215 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,980 How can I help you? - How are you? Fine, thank you! 1216 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,400 Would you say, 1217 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,880 that is it a possibility, or a probability 1218 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,920 that sub-prime losses stop at five percent? 1219 01:13:47,540 --> 01:13:48,480 Thank you! 1220 01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,960 I would say it is a very strong probability, indeed! 1221 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,500 So, ehm, back to the residential sector, 1222 01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:59,140 when we rolled out the new variable rates package - Excuse me! 1223 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,980 The ehm. He he he! 1224 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,240 Zero! 1225 01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:04,700 Zero! 1226 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:06,860 ZERO! 1227 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:09,800 There is a zero percent chance 1228 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,680 that your sub-prime losses will stop at five percent! 1229 01:14:14,060 --> 01:14:14,880 Zero! 1230 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:15,900 Excuse me! 1231 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,560 I have to take this - He must be from Bank of America! 1232 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,000 No, I'm really not doing anything right now! 1233 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,940 As I was saying, our residential sector - uh huh, and how are the kids? 1234 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,540 Consumers reacted to our packages 1235 01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:32,780 Mark Baum really did that! When we were in Vegas he did that! 1236 01:14:32,780 --> 01:14:34,520 He said that... he took the call, 1237 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:36,720 Now you see what i had to deal with! 1238 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,320 Woohoo! 1239 01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:55,260 This Uzi is fucking awesome! 1240 01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:57,900 If I can get this CDO-machine to run for another two years 1241 01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,580 and then, I'm rich as fuck and I got my house in Aspen! 1242 01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:06,080 But do you have any concerns about the performance of the underlying securitizations? 1243 01:15:06,140 --> 01:15:08,040 It's easy to see that delinquencies, 1244 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,700 eh, default-rates are on the rise right now! 1245 01:15:11,220 --> 01:15:13,040 Could you please stop being such a buzz-kill dude! 1246 01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:15,840 We didn't bring you out here to talk about work bro! 1247 01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:17,540 Why'd you bring us out here? 1248 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,600 Because we need to be able to expense the ammo to a client! 1249 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,320 We're gonna shoot some terrorists, watch out boys! 1250 01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:27,240 These guys are morons! - Fucking tool! 1251 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:30,860 Woo!- Fuck Yes! 1252 01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:32,760 Boom, yeah man BOOM! 1253 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,580 We ought to be buying every swap we can get our hands on! - Just hold on okay, hold on! 1254 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:41,440 My brothers ex-girlfriend works for the SEC, she just told me she's in town, okay!? 1255 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:45,260 So if we're missing something, maybe she can tell me, give me some insight. 1256 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,400 In the mean-time, you go to the main floor to buy some more swaps 1257 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,940 Well actually, we're about to invest in housing bonds. 1258 01:15:53,660 --> 01:15:56,360 I was just wondering if the SEC is worried about them at all 1259 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,100 I know you're not allowed to tell me specifics, but, just generally. 1260 01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:01,200 Ow, we don't investigate mortgage bonds 1261 01:16:01,420 --> 01:16:04,640 Truth is, since we had our budgets cut, we don't investigate much! 1262 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,140 Then why are you here? I thought.. - I'm not here for the SEC! 1263 01:16:09,860 --> 01:16:11,240 I'm here on my own dime 1264 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,220 I'm floating my resume to some big banks! 1265 01:16:15,740 --> 01:16:17,140 How's your brother by the way? 1266 01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,460 How are you floating your resume to big banks? 1267 01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:22,420 I mean, you're supposed to be the ones policing the big banks 1268 01:16:22,420 --> 01:16:23,500 Grow up Jamie! 1269 01:16:23,740 --> 01:16:27,560 There must be some kind of law against working for a financial institution 1270 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,740 right after you've been working in financial regulation right? 1271 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,800 No! 1272 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,080 No! 1273 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,300 Hey! 1274 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,920 Dougie! 1275 01:16:37,660 --> 01:16:41,660 Hey, come over here! What are you doing at Caesar's? - He's a Goldman 1276 01:16:43,820 --> 01:16:48,660 We can do BBB-level swaps at 500 basis points, maybe! 1277 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,580 You're praising the swaps, like the bond is gonna collapse 1278 01:16:52,940 --> 01:16:55,220 Even though the bond-value is going up? Really? 1279 01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:58,620 Exciting times! - What the hell is going on?! 1280 01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:00,780 Lewis, Can you come early tomorrow, please? 1281 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,780 I need to unload the AIG and country-wide Freddy Mac positions 1282 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,120 so we can afford the premiums on the 1283 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,900 core mortgage-shorts on the swaps 1284 01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:12,880 No problem Dr. Burry 1285 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,380 Dr. Burry! 1286 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,180 If the investors withdraw, what's gonna happen here? 1287 01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:23,920 Are we done? 1288 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,460 Honestly I don't know! 1289 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,700 The, the... 1290 01:18:33,740 --> 01:18:35,240 the bonds aren't going down! 1291 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:37,920 They won't move! 1292 01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:39,340 It's possible 1293 01:18:40,220 --> 01:18:44,420 That we are in a completely fraudulent system. 1294 01:18:46,220 --> 01:18:49,040 Or... you're, you're wrong. 1295 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,860 Sure! 1296 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,580 It's possible, I just don't know how! 1297 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,460 I guess.... 1298 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:06,100 when... 1299 01:19:06,620 --> 01:19:08,020 someone's wrong, they never.. 1300 01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:10,560 They never... Know how! 1301 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,560 See you in the morning! - Yeah. 1302 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,140 Even Bear up their prices! 1303 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,120 They keep calling us Brownhall 1304 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,240 you just don't have the money or the reputation, don't take it personal! 1305 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,880 I don't think i have the strip-club in me tonight I'm just gonna get some drinks around. 1306 01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:35,840 Watch some Pay-per-view book us some flights out for the morning. 1307 01:19:36,580 --> 01:19:38,980 D- d- deal, we need a deal, right, a deal. 1308 01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:43,680 Uhm, we need a deal we can afford, we need a deal they're not gonna refuse! 1309 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,500 So... What can we do? We can.... 1310 01:19:48,340 --> 01:19:51,020 The AA-tranches, What if we bet against the AA-tranches? 1311 01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:53,020 Who's not gonna take that bet? 1312 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,240 We know that they say they're ninety-five percent AAA-rated 1313 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,660 But in reality, they're more like twenty-five percent, some of them are zero percent! 1314 01:20:00,940 --> 01:20:03,660 We also know that if the bottom-tranches fail at over eight percent 1315 01:20:03,660 --> 01:20:05,840 The upper-tranches are affected and they go to zero. 1316 01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:09,400 I'll bet you right now, that those AA's are actually like B's! 1317 01:20:09,740 --> 01:20:12,920 I rarely ever say these words but i think Charlie is right! 1318 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,380 Look, Ben! 1319 01:20:16,420 --> 01:20:17,060 Pay-off! 1320 01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:21,780 Is 200-to-1, but they're all taking the ratings off face value 1321 01:20:22,220 --> 01:20:25,480 They're charging penny's on the dollar to bet against Double-A's 1322 01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:28,900 Just when i start thinking you guys are clowns! 1323 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,980 No-one on the planet is betting against Double-A's 1324 01:20:32,500 --> 01:20:35,160 The banks will think we're either high, or having a stroke 1325 01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:37,280 And they'll take every dime we have to offer! 1326 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:41,300 Kind of brilliant! 1327 01:20:43,580 --> 01:20:45,360 This is what we did, that no-one else thought of. 1328 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,080 Not even Baum or Berry thought to short the Double-A's 1329 01:20:48,740 --> 01:20:49,680 But we did. 1330 01:20:50,060 --> 01:20:51,580 Little Brownhall Capitol 1331 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,860 So we're interesting in shorting some of the AA-tranches of CDO's 1332 01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:58,580 Come on guys, what's the angle? 1333 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,180 I've got no angle, we're new to this, we're just so hyped! 1334 01:21:01,180 --> 01:21:04,600 We wanna do fifteen million in swaps on the Double-A tranche 1335 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,700 I don't understand! 1336 01:21:06,740 --> 01:21:08,680 You can buy as much Double-A tranches as you want! 1337 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,080 Forty million against the Double-A 1338 01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:16,240 Brother, I would sell you as much as you want! 1339 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,500 I understand perfectly Bob! Want the deal? 1340 01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:22,920 That's cool, that's alright with me! 1341 01:21:30,580 --> 01:21:31,940 He's gone! 1342 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,440 Don't do that! Stop, Stop! 1343 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,640 Stop that! - Charlie! Wooooh! 1344 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,780 Stop it, Stop! 1345 01:21:42,620 --> 01:21:43,260 What? 1346 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,680 Do you have any idea what you just did? 1347 01:21:46,940 --> 01:21:50,060 Come on, we just made the deal of our lifetime, we should celebrate! 1348 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:52,020 You just bet against the American economy! 1349 01:21:52,020 --> 01:21:53,400 Fuck yeah we did! - Yeah! 1350 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,580 Which means! Fuck yeah! OH! 1351 01:21:55,580 --> 01:21:57,600 Which means... If we're right.... 1352 01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:01,060 If we're right, people lose homes! 1353 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:02,400 People lose jobs! 1354 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,160 People lose retirement savings, people lose pensions! 1355 01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:08,480 You know what i hate about fucking banking! It reduces people to numbers! 1356 01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:10,440 Here's a number! Every one percent unemployment goes up, 1357 01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:12,440 40 thousand people die! Did you know that?! 1358 01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:14,700 Did you know that? - No, I didn't know that! 1359 01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:17,900 We were just excited! 1360 01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:21,900 Just don't fucking dance! 1361 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:24,620 Alright! - Where are you going? 1362 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,220 Whoah, I just got really scared! 1363 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,540 First of all, great show today! 1364 01:22:35,140 --> 01:22:35,900 You were terrific! 1365 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,280 Thank you! - Your big mouth was a revelation! 1366 01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:39,640 I appreciate that! 1367 01:22:40,220 --> 01:22:41,880 You worried you, and your swaps were getting played? 1368 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,660 Well, this is an opportunity for you to meet who you're betting against! 1369 01:22:45,380 --> 01:22:47,140 Try not to get too righteous and listen a little! 1370 01:22:47,140 --> 01:22:48,700 OK, Fine! Who is this guy? 1371 01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:50,440 A real solid-gold asshole! 1372 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,640 I'm a CDO-manager 1373 01:22:51,980 --> 01:22:54,060 A CDO-manager? - Yup, at Harding Advisors 1374 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,160 I didn't realize that there was anything to manage with CDO's 1375 01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,980 Oh, well. 1376 01:23:00,780 --> 01:23:04,660 We select the securities that go into the CDO-portfolio and monitor the assets 1377 01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:06,520 I do most of Meryll-Lynch's CDO's 1378 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,020 Do you represent the investors or Meryll-Lynch? 1379 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,340 The investors! 1380 01:23:10,700 --> 01:23:11,540 You do. 1381 01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:13,200 Yeah! - But... 1382 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,120 Meryll-Lynch isn't gonna send you any costumers unless you put 1383 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,560 Merrill-Lynch's bonds in your CDO.... 1384 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:20,980 Good question! 1385 01:23:20,980 --> 01:23:22,840 Let's just assume Merrill and I have a... 1386 01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:24,860 we have a good relationship 1387 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,420 You have a good relationship with Merrill-Lynch? 1388 01:23:27,940 --> 01:23:29,100 We've been doing business together 1389 01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:30,600 And so the CDO's.. 1390 01:23:31,060 --> 01:23:31,960 That you create 1391 01:23:32,260 --> 01:23:34,580 are, are, are, of the highest quality 1392 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,020 and the highest of value! 1393 01:23:36,020 --> 01:23:37,600 Absolutely! - Absolutely! 1394 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,420 Are you at all concerned about the rising default-rates? 1395 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:49,080 I assume no risk for this produce myself Mark 1396 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,520 Okay! 1397 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:53,700 So let me get this straight 1398 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,000 The bank calls you up 1399 01:23:56,220 --> 01:23:57,760 They give you the bonds they wanna sell 1400 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,920 They give you clients, they give you money to run your business, 1401 01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:03,360 Give you fat fee's for doing so 1402 01:24:03,540 --> 01:24:05,880 but you represent the investors? 1403 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:07,880 Is that right? 1404 01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:08,520 Yeah! 1405 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,820 But we're not in the Merrill-Lynch building! 1406 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,460 OK, where are you? - We're in New Jersey! 1407 01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:13,960 You're twenty minutes away! 1408 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,840 Five, if you use the helicopter! 1409 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,400 That's funny eh? 1410 01:24:19,740 --> 01:24:21,000 That's hilarious! 1411 01:24:24,020 --> 01:24:24,960 Oh boy! 1412 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,220 Your boss is about to explode! 1413 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,680 No, he's too curious to explode! 1414 01:24:29,740 --> 01:24:31,060 Hold on, say that again! 1415 01:24:31,060 --> 01:24:33,180 CDO A, has parts of CDO B 1416 01:24:33,460 --> 01:24:37,600 And CDO B, has parts of CDO A and then they both get put inside CDO C. 1417 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,340 Yeah and that one is called CDO square! 1418 01:24:39,620 --> 01:24:41,680 A CDO of a CDO! 1419 01:24:42,220 --> 01:24:42,660 Right? 1420 01:24:43,220 --> 01:24:46,780 And then there's CDO's made up of the opposite sides of the bet you made with the swaps 1421 01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:49,280 We call them, synthetic CDO's 1422 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,200 What did you just say? Synthetic CDO's? That is fucking crazy! 1423 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,400 It's not! It's awesome! 1424 01:24:56,700 --> 01:25:00,440 His face is starting to boil He looks like the bad guy from DOOM 1425 01:25:04,180 --> 01:25:05,560 Alright, let's say... 1426 01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:10,060 You have a pool of 50 million in sub-prime loans 1427 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,480 How much money could be out there betting on it 1428 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,120 In your synthetic CDO's and swaps? Right now! Tonight! 1429 01:25:17,740 --> 01:25:18,740 50 million.. Hmm.. 1430 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,180 A billion dollars 1431 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,020 What? 1432 01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:27,480 If the mortgage-bonds that Michael Burry discovered were the match... 1433 01:25:28,940 --> 01:25:32,920 How much bigger is the market for insuring mortgage bonds than for actual mortgages? 1434 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,280 About twenty times! 1435 01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:37,400 If the mortgage bonds were the match... 1436 01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:40,200 Then the CDO's were the kerosene soaked rags. 1437 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,920 And the synthetic CDO was the atomic bomb 1438 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,440 with a drunk president holding his finger over the button 1439 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,040 It was at that moment in that dumb restaurant 1440 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,080 with that stupid look on his face that Mark Baum realized 1441 01:25:51,220 --> 01:25:53,780 The whole world economy might collapse! 1442 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,260 And i know what you're thinking! 1443 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,480 What the fuck is a synthetic CDO? 1444 01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:07,680 Well, here's Dr. Thaler, father of behavioral economics, 1445 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,680 and Selena Gomez to explain! 1446 01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:13,420 Ok, so here's how a synthetic CDO works! 1447 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,460 Let's say i bet ten million on a black jack hand. 1448 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,720 Ten million, because this hand is meant to represent a single mortgage bond 1449 01:26:24,940 --> 01:26:27,160 Okay, Selena has a pretty good hand here! 1450 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,160 Showing eighteen, dealer showing seven That's a really good hand for Selena! 1451 01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:34,100 Good odds, In fact her chances of winning this hand 1452 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,600 are eighty-seven percent 1453 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,320 So, my odds are good 1454 01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:38,920 I'm on a winning streak 1455 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,820 Everybody in this place wants to get in on the action 1456 01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:43,160 How could i lose right? 1457 01:26:43,380 --> 01:26:45,120 Now this is a classic error 1458 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,800 In basketball it's called the Hot-Hand-Fallacy 1459 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,360 A player makes a bunch of shots in a row 1460 01:26:50,660 --> 01:26:52,700 People are sure they're gonna make the next one 1461 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,980 People think, whatever is happening now 1462 01:26:54,980 --> 01:26:57,620 Is gonna continue to happen into the future! 1463 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,460 During the real-estate boom 1464 01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:01,320 Markets were going up and up! 1465 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,040 And people thought they would never go down! 1466 01:27:03,140 --> 01:27:06,900 So people who are watching and think that I won't lose will make a side-bet 1467 01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:09,360 Now this, is the first synthetic CDO 1468 01:27:09,420 --> 01:27:10,420 I love Selena Gomez! 1469 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,740 I'll bet you fifteen million, she wins! 1470 01:27:12,740 --> 01:27:14,440 And I'll give you 3-to-1 odds! 1471 01:27:14,860 --> 01:27:15,860 3-to-1 odds? 1472 01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:18,180 Okay, I'll take that bet! 1473 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,600 Now! 1474 01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:24,040 Somebody else is gonna wanna make a bet on the outcome of their bet! 1475 01:27:24,050 --> 01:27:24,760 15 million she wins! 1476 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,560 That will lead to synthetic CDO number two! 1477 01:27:27,780 --> 01:27:28,180 Hey! 1478 01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:32,300 I bet you 200 million, that lady in the glasses, wins that bet! 1479 01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:34,100 She probably will win! 1480 01:27:34,460 --> 01:27:35,800 So i want great pay-off! 1481 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,060 How about 20-to-1? 1482 01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:38,200 Deal! 1483 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,320 And this will go on and on, with more and more synthetic CDO's 1484 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,120 And we can transform an original ten million dollar investment 1485 01:27:47,340 --> 01:27:49,060 Into billions of dollars 1486 01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:51,340 You're Ok? 1487 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,920 No! 1488 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:57,320 I actually feel pretty sick! 1489 01:28:02,420 --> 01:28:04,660 So I'm going to leave 1490 01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:07,920 You think I'm a parasite don't you mister Baum? 1491 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,860 But apparently society values me, 1492 01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:12,700 very much. 1493 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,840 In fact, let's do this! 1494 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,820 I'll tell you, 1495 01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:20,680 how much I'm worth. 1496 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,200 You tell me how much you're worth! 1497 01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,520 You are an incredibly... 1498 01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:28,680 big piece of shit! 1499 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,140 Short everything that guy has touched, I want half a billion more in swaps 1500 01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:41,180 Sure about that? The collateral calls could bankrupt you! 1501 01:28:41,180 --> 01:28:41,840 Yeah! 1502 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,260 Where are you going? 1503 01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:47,460 I am going to try to find moral redemption and to re-lactate 1504 01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:53,920 Hey, Hey, Hey! 1505 01:29:57,620 --> 01:29:59,600 These are percentages 1506 01:30:01,260 --> 01:30:03,540 Honey, I do think the economy might collapse! 1507 01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:07,040 You've been saying that the system is broken for years Mark 1508 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:09,880 Why are you so shocked? 1509 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,100 It's more twisted, than i could have imagined! 1510 01:30:16,540 --> 01:30:18,560 You love to be the virtuous one 1511 01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:20,380 I'm a banker, I'm a part of it! 1512 01:30:20,380 --> 01:30:21,500 You always have Mark! 1513 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,860 Like you're untainted - It changed me, it changed me! 1514 01:30:24,860 --> 01:30:26,420 Into a person, 1515 01:30:26,420 --> 01:30:28,760 who is not able to reach out to someone 1516 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,580 He was in pain, my brother was in real pain! 1517 01:30:30,620 --> 01:30:33,900 I lost so much! - There is no perfect way to help 1518 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,520 It sounds scary! 1519 01:30:39,260 --> 01:30:42,480 So, Stop... trying to fix the world! 1520 01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:43,620 He told me 1521 01:30:43,620 --> 01:30:47,080 You're not a saint, saints don't live on Park Avenue! 1522 01:30:47,140 --> 01:30:48,460 That he was having bad thoughts. 1523 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,640 Just feel the feelings, like the rest of us! 1524 01:30:51,740 --> 01:30:56,340 My first response... Was, to offer him some money. 1525 01:30:56,340 --> 01:30:58,460 I offered him fucking money! 1526 01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,940 His face was so smashed! 1527 01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:35,000 Michael? 1528 01:32:35,580 --> 01:32:37,020 Michael? - Yes, Yes! 1529 01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:38,720 Is everything Ok? - Yes honey! 1530 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:39,940 Sure? 1531 01:32:39,940 --> 01:32:41,140 Yeah baby! 1532 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,200 All fine, hehe! 1533 01:32:53,480 --> 01:32:56,060 To all investors, as you may know, 1534 01:32:57,220 --> 01:33:00,980 Our agreement allows me, to take extraordinary measures 1535 01:33:00,980 --> 01:33:03,280 When markets aren't functioning properly 1536 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,320 I currently have reason to believe 1537 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,100 The mortgage-bond market is fraudulent 1538 01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:17,020 So, in order to protect investors from this fraudulent market 1539 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,440 I've decided to restrict investor's withdrawals 1540 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,620 Until further notice. 1541 01:33:22,620 --> 01:33:26,980 Sincerely, Dr. Michael J. Burry 1542 01:34:45,460 --> 01:34:47,220 Oh my god dude, will you, 1543 01:34:47,420 --> 01:34:48,660 Please stop changing the channel 1544 01:34:48,660 --> 01:34:50,660 It's been driving me crazy! - Fine! 1545 01:34:50,980 --> 01:34:53,100 Just put the business-news on please. Thank you! 1546 01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,660 And the S&P picked up three points 1547 01:34:54,660 --> 01:34:55,460 Jesus! 1548 01:34:55,460 --> 01:34:56,980 Mortgage Meltdown continues 1549 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,040 sub-prime mortgage-lender New Century Financial 1550 01:35:00,060 --> 01:35:02,680 Once the industry-leader by the way, filed for bankruptcy 1551 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,680 The company immediately, Ahem! 1552 01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:06,740 Good time for my voice to go 1553 01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:08,740 Fired 3,200 workers 1554 01:35:08,940 --> 01:35:11,440 The manufacturing-index also put out the month of march 1555 01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:12,680 It's starting.... 1556 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,460 A warning that the economic growth could slow 1557 01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,280 The institute of sub-prime assets also reported a rise of prices 1558 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,980 I'm gonna call my mom! 1559 01:35:21,420 --> 01:35:23,980 The principle source of the slowdown of economic growth 1560 01:35:24,300 --> 01:35:28,740 Time, and time, and time again have I bought them back from you Marcus 1561 01:35:28,740 --> 01:35:30,040 We've know each-other for seventeen years 1562 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,420 She 's got some lungs on her I'm impressed! 1563 01:35:33,740 --> 01:35:35,040 Can't help but enjoy it. 1564 01:35:36,220 --> 01:35:39,500 There's no fucking way, there's no fucking way, that the big banks are that stupid! 1565 01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:41,940 Bye Kathy! 1566 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,080 Well? 1567 01:35:49,180 --> 01:35:52,860 Kathy thinks it would be a good idea if we sold our shorts 1568 01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:53,660 What else is new? 1569 01:35:53,660 --> 01:35:56,000 And she said that Morgan-Stanley will buy them 1570 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:56,880 Holy shit! 1571 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:58,520 What did you say? 1572 01:35:58,940 --> 01:36:00,760 I told her we're not selling shit! 1573 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,120 Ah, if you need the.. Ehm, files for 2005 1574 01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:14,240 Mister Field's suit is very specific to files from the past year 1575 01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:17,760 Good, then get out! Say hi to Lawrence for me! And both do! 1576 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,180 You can't call me back for a week? 1577 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,040 I'm so sorry Mike! 1578 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,980 Goldman had a systems failure, I lost a ton of messages! 1579 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,000 B of A said they had a power outage, And Morgan-Stanley said their server crashed! 1580 01:36:33,580 --> 01:36:33,980 Huh! 1581 01:36:34,260 --> 01:36:35,520 That's weird! 1582 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,700 Meh, I will, I will call it.. Improbable Sue. 1583 01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:41,820 Where do you have our position-mark? 1584 01:36:42,460 --> 01:36:44,020 I think it's the same Mike 1585 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,860 What? Can you explain that to me please? 1586 01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:49,660 H-H-H How can the value of an insurance-contract 1587 01:36:49,660 --> 01:36:53,860 Not be affected by the demise of the very thing it insures? 1588 01:36:53,860 --> 01:36:56,660 They're independent markets, They're not always correlated! 1589 01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,240 I know it sounds odd, but these are very complicated products! 1590 01:37:01,300 --> 01:37:03,080 They ARE correlated! 1591 01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,180 They're gonna lose their houses, They're gonna lose their jobs, They're gonna lose their p.. 1592 01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:10,440 Will you listen to me! 1593 01:37:11,180 --> 01:37:13,780 This is like.... The end of capitalism! 1594 01:37:13,940 --> 01:37:16,780 This is like the dark ages all-over again! 1595 01:37:18,420 --> 01:37:21,740 I don't want to talk to dad! Okay, I love you too, save your money! 1596 01:37:22,660 --> 01:37:25,940 She says I need to be on Xanax, and double my dose of Zoloft 1597 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,700 I asked Bear-Stearns to price our shorts They tell me the CDO's still haven't moved 1598 01:37:30,740 --> 01:37:31,820 This is fucking insane! 1599 01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,540 You realize that? These people are crooks and they should be in prison! 1600 01:37:36,460 --> 01:37:39,340 Look at the theta-graphics, you can see that the CDO's are worth zero! 1601 01:37:39,340 --> 01:37:40,580 So you know what they're doing huh? 1602 01:37:40,580 --> 01:37:42,380 You know what they're doing right? - Yeah! 1603 01:37:42,380 --> 01:37:43,560 They're unloading them... 1604 01:37:43,580 --> 01:37:45,400 They're selling their dogshit CDO's 1605 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:46,880 Then they go to another bank 1606 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,620 And short the shit, while they fucking sold it! - Whoo ho ho, Let's go to the press man! 1607 01:37:50,740 --> 01:37:53,960 This is a massive story! Who wouldn't publish it? 1608 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,080 Robert Redford! 1609 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,540 Shorting the ones they were gonna buy - I got it, I got it! 1610 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,400 I got it, I got it... 1611 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,740 And what am I supposed to do? 1612 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,700 Want me to write a piece called: "We're all fucked!" 1613 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,380 Yes! That's a perfect title! 1614 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,220 Casey, Right now, every bank in town is unloading these shit-bonds 1615 01:38:11,220 --> 01:38:13,020 unto unsuspecting customers 1616 01:38:13,020 --> 01:38:16,180 and they won't devalue them until they get them off their books 1617 01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:20,760 This level of criminality is unprecedented even on fucking Wall-street! 1618 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:23,260 Jamie... 1619 01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:25,020 This is me being honest here okay. 1620 01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:27,660 It took me years to build my relationships on Wall-street 1621 01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:29,540 No bank or ratings-agency 1622 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,020 Is gonna confirm a story like this 1623 01:38:32,020 --> 01:38:34,120 just because it comes from two guys in a... 1624 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,280 sorry garage-band hedge-fund that thinks it's the apocalypse. 1625 01:38:39,620 --> 01:38:40,320 Wow! 1626 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,680 I thought you were for real Casey You know, I have to say, I really did! 1627 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,160 Yeah Jamie, you try being for real with a three-year old 1628 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,800 and a wife getting her masters-degree 1629 01:38:49,420 --> 01:38:52,260 I'm not gonna burn my reputation on your wild hunch 1630 01:38:53,300 --> 01:38:53,980 Wow! 1631 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,560 Thanks for coming guys, totally fucking awesome to see you! 1632 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,080 Yeah. I, Casey I, I, I've always hated you 1633 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,780 Because you were a prick in college and you are a prick today! 1634 01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:07,700 Thanks Charlie! Still living with your mom? 1635 01:39:08,420 --> 01:39:10,060 Charlie, Come on! 1636 01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:12,260 It's Mark Baum again. Call me! 1637 01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:14,100 Sub-prime bonds fell off a cliff 1638 01:39:14,260 --> 01:39:16,460 Rumor has it default-numbers are huge! 1639 01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:19,060 Who got their remittance-data early? I bet it's Goldman 1640 01:39:19,140 --> 01:39:20,620 Nah, Fuck you very much! 1641 01:39:20,620 --> 01:39:23,660 Jared! It's chaos down here, where are we? 1642 01:39:23,660 --> 01:39:27,080 .. And see, he wept, for there are no more worlds to conquer 1643 01:39:28,540 --> 01:39:30,040 Shane... 1644 01:39:30,340 --> 01:39:31,780 Shane! 1645 01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:33,820 Well... 1646 01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:36,320 Nobody's buying CDO's and mortgage bonds anymore 1647 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,980 And everybody wants swaps, swaps are not he most popular product on the street 1648 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,860 That's good for us! - Yes, and no. 1649 01:39:41,860 --> 01:39:43,400 I heard from somebody, who heard from somebody 1650 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,720 No Alex. No..... Sorry! 1651 01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:53,120 I'm betting Kleeger over at Morgan is taking up some heavy losses in the bond-department 1652 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,860 Your shit might be taking on water 1653 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,540 Time to get our life-jacket and get out. 1654 01:39:58,540 --> 01:39:59,320 Holy shit! 1655 01:39:59,460 --> 01:40:00,380 I'm jacked 1656 01:40:01,420 --> 01:40:02,600 I'm Jacked! 1657 01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,220 I'm jacked to the tits! 1658 01:40:04,820 --> 01:40:05,540 Good! 1659 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,600 Do you feel it? - No! 1660 01:40:14,060 --> 01:40:15,860 What'd you hear tiny? 1661 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:18,200 It's happening 1662 01:40:18,620 --> 01:40:20,340 Everybody wants our swaps 1663 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,280 Kathy's office is looking for you! 1664 01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:25,040 Singing a different tune now, aren't they? 1665 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:27,480 That's not good. 1666 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:33,700 Maybe later. 1667 01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:39,120 No, no this isn't a joke - you gotta start unwinding... 1668 01:40:40,220 --> 01:40:41,060 Listening! 1669 01:40:41,780 --> 01:40:42,980 Dr. Burry? - Yah! 1670 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:44,980 Deev Woonsen, Goldman Sachs 1671 01:40:44,980 --> 01:40:46,400 Listen, I've been reviewing your position 1672 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,640 I wanted to discuss your marks, make sure they're fair! 1673 01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,380 Yeah, I, I, I thi, I think you mean.. That you've.. 1674 01:40:51,940 --> 01:40:57,520 Secured a net-short position yourselves, so you're free to mark my swaps accurately for once 1675 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,620 Because it's now in your interest to do so. 1676 01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,660 Ehm... I'm not sure what you want me to say 1677 01:41:04,660 --> 01:41:05,620 I think that.... 1678 01:41:07,660 --> 01:41:09,240 I think you've already said it. 1679 01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:21,080 You tell Jeff at Goldman that I'm not transferring funds, this is bullshit! 1680 01:41:28,700 --> 01:41:29,880 Okay, we'll talk later. 1681 01:41:30,860 --> 01:41:31,900 Thank you... 1682 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,080 Thanks for coming so quickly Mark - Yeah 1683 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:37,980 Ehm... 1684 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,260 I know you've been hearing rumblings about some losses Morgan has suffered. 1685 01:41:41,260 --> 01:41:43,720 - Congratulations On what? 1686 01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:44,660 Oh! 1687 01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:46,140 Thanks. 1688 01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:48,260 Ehm.. - Having fun? 1689 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,080 Yes! He he! 1690 01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:53,720 Tons!, Ehm.... 1691 01:41:54,020 --> 01:41:55,580 I just wanted you to know that ehm... 1692 01:41:57,060 --> 01:42:00,260 Yes, Morgan has suffered some losses, but our liquidity is strong, 1693 01:42:00,260 --> 01:42:02,040 And there's no cause for concern! 1694 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,080 Would Benny Kleeger be concerned? 1695 01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:09,240 Because word on the street is he took some pretty heavy losses 1696 01:42:11,420 --> 01:42:14,940 Kathy come on, we know each-other.. How, how?... 1697 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,220 How bad is this? 1698 01:42:17,540 --> 01:42:18,340 Ok... 1699 01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:22,580 Two years ago, Benny Kleeger, in Morgan's bond-department 1700 01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:24,580 also started shorting sub-prime housing. 1701 01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,580 Two billion in Triple-B's - Benny is smarter than i thought! 1702 01:42:27,580 --> 01:42:28,720 No, he's not smart at all! 1703 01:42:29,140 --> 01:42:31,540 The premiums on the swaps ate into his desks profit. 1704 01:42:31,660 --> 01:42:33,580 And to cover his Triple-B shorts, 1705 01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:37,000 he sold a lot of A- and Double-A swaps as protection, A lot! 1706 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,360 He believed that there was no way, that they could be affected. 1707 01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:44,840 Tell me Morgan-Stanley doesn't hold the contracts on these swaps 1708 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:49,500 Holy shit 1709 01:42:50,500 --> 01:42:53,660 All this time I've been trying to figure out who I'm betting against. 1710 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:55,520 And it's Morgan-Stanley 1711 01:42:56,780 --> 01:42:57,960 Which is me.... 1712 01:43:00,140 --> 01:43:01,720 What's your exposure? Three billion? 1713 01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:05,080 Please don't tell me it's more than four! 1714 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,200 I can't answer that! 1715 01:43:06,980 --> 01:43:08,940 Yes you can answer that, because... 1716 01:43:09,220 --> 01:43:12,580 I walk in here and people are crying in your hallway 1717 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:14,900 Kathy.. 1718 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,640 You bring me in to tell me everything is fine, and everything is not fine! 1719 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,060 What? What is happening? 1720 01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:24,820 Long exposure is... 1721 01:43:27,460 --> 01:43:28,820 fifteen billion 1722 01:43:35,340 --> 01:43:38,740 Jesus Christ, are you fucking kidding me?! - You kept saying defaults over eight percent were impossible! 1723 01:43:38,740 --> 01:43:41,180 - That there would be a million homeless Oh my god! 1724 01:43:42,260 --> 01:43:45,340 Yeah, but we have nothing to do with Morgan-Stanley 1725 01:43:47,860 --> 01:43:50,660 Yeah... Just tell the bankruptcy-court 1726 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,560 Morgan fails, all our accounts go under bow and ship 1727 01:43:54,740 --> 01:43:56,280 That's just crazy! 1728 01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,880 Morgan makes a sucker's bet and we pay their fucking gambling debt? 1729 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,680 Short the bank's stocks! - Wait.. 1730 01:44:07,460 --> 01:44:10,000 Or we sell our swaps, when the market opens 1731 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,500 We get our bonuses, our investors get their profits 1732 01:44:13,820 --> 01:44:16,700 We get... thirty cents on the dollar, Not bad! 1733 01:44:17,020 --> 01:44:18,560 We're three times up 1734 01:44:18,660 --> 01:44:20,440 Not if there's no market left to sell them in 1735 01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:22,520 Forget it, I'm not giving out any life-hooks 1736 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,760 Mark, if Morgan goes under, we end up with nothing! 1737 01:44:24,940 --> 01:44:26,140 Vinnie... 1738 01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,080 Jesus, come on! 1739 01:44:29,420 --> 01:44:31,380 I say, when we sell 1740 01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:36,880 Look I get that this is personal for you, 1741 01:44:37,660 --> 01:44:41,040 But we have a fiduciary responsibility - No, no we don't! 1742 01:44:41,700 --> 01:44:43,500 Respons..? Nobody is acting responsible! 1743 01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,340 Fuck responsibility! Are you kidding me? 1744 01:44:47,480 --> 01:44:49,340 The assholes at the big banks, are gonna take.. 1745 01:44:49,380 --> 01:44:52,620 You boys want menu's now? - We're talking!.. Please! 1746 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:54,680 Excuse us! 1747 01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,520 We are going to wait, and we are going to wait 1748 01:44:59,860 --> 01:45:04,640 We are going to wait, until they feel the pain, until they start to bleed 1749 01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:06,520 That is what I want 1750 01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,860 Yeah, but what about our clients, they've been trusting us with their savings. 1751 01:45:08,860 --> 01:45:10,200 I say when we sell! 1752 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,520 This isn't about you! 1753 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,980 Hey, hey, HEY! I say when we sell! 1754 01:45:16,780 --> 01:45:17,860 Whatever you say Mark 1755 01:45:25,140 --> 01:45:26,800 Dude, did you hear the news? 1756 01:45:28,820 --> 01:45:33,100 Ok, so not only did two mortgage hedge-funds backed by Bear-Stearns go belly-up 1757 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:36,640 but now, there's a class-action lawsuit against Bear 1758 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:37,620 Holy shit! 1759 01:45:37,620 --> 01:45:40,260 Let's go! Push, Push! 1760 01:45:40,300 --> 01:45:43,180 So? What? Bear could really collapse here? - That's a risk we really shouldn't take! 1761 01:45:43,220 --> 01:45:45,720 We bought eighty percent of our swaps at Bear 1762 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:47,140 We lose everything! 1763 01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:48,760 Hey Sir! - One second! 1764 01:45:48,860 --> 01:45:52,540 That's my opinion! - Aw, we bought these fucking things, and we have no clue how to sell them 1765 01:45:52,540 --> 01:45:54,060 I know, we have to get Ben to do it! 1766 01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:55,820 I've been trying to call him, but he won't get back to me 1767 01:45:55,820 --> 01:45:59,880 No, he's out on vacation with his wife's family! They're in England! 1768 01:46:00,340 --> 01:46:01,220 What?! 1769 01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:10,340 Hello, Ben? Hey! 1770 01:46:10,340 --> 01:46:12,400 Guys? - Yeah, we're here, can you hear us? 1771 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,880 Guys?- We hear ya, Yeah! 1772 01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:17,500 I probably got cell-phone and WiFi-service 1773 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,540 I'm trying to sell 200 million dollars worth of securities 1774 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,120 In a pub... 1775 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:23,720 smells like sheep 1776 01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:24,700 You can do this! 1777 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,140 I don't want to pressure you Ben, but if you don't pull this off, we lose everything! 1778 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,620 Ok, let's see what Credit Suisse's appetite is. 1779 01:46:37,480 --> 01:46:40,560 This is Brownfield Fund, I'm wanting to unload my credit default swaps. 1780 01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:41,920 Alright, what've you got? 1781 01:46:42,620 --> 01:46:44,440 Twenty Double-A tranches of ABS CDO's 1782 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,360 Eh yes.. But these eh... these are pretty bad 1783 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:48,800 Absolutely, they're complete shit! 1784 01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,660 What's your.. What's your? - Base-value is two-hundred and five million 1785 01:46:53,060 --> 01:46:53,760 Dollars 1786 01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:56,420 Alright, we could, we could go to forty 1787 01:46:56,940 --> 01:46:58,260 No, we want at least a hundred million 1788 01:46:58,260 --> 01:46:59,580 A hundred million? 1789 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,020 What are you a drug-dealer or a banker? 1790 01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,360 Cause if you're a banker you can fuck right off! 1791 01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,060 I don't know if we can make a market, just give me your best price! 1792 01:47:07,060 --> 01:47:09,820 Yeah, Check! A hundred million worth, and aim higher! 1793 01:47:09,820 --> 01:47:10,900 I think we're far apart 1794 01:47:11,580 --> 01:47:13,620 Look if you don't want to deal, just hang up. 1795 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:17,920 That's what I thought! 1796 01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:19,880 Ninety million 1797 01:47:19,940 --> 01:47:21,100 Seventy! 1798 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:23,160 Eighty-five 1799 01:47:23,980 --> 01:47:26,100 Seventy-eight - Eighty-four! 1800 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,680 Seventy-eight - Eighty-four! 1801 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,160 It's Dr. Burry 1802 01:47:32,700 --> 01:47:35,640 Looks like the collapse of the financial sector is imminent 1803 01:47:36,620 --> 01:47:38,280 Start to sell my position 1804 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,200 2.3 billion 1805 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,560 Sure, I'll hold! 1806 01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:09,320 So I was right. 1807 01:48:10,220 --> 01:48:11,980 I took a rash of shit for two years. But... 1808 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,740 I was right! And... 1809 01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:16,640 Everyone was wrong! 1810 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:19,300 And yeah i got a bonus-cheque for it 1811 01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,120 Sue me! 1812 01:48:21,780 --> 01:48:22,600 You know. 1813 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:26,140 It's a lot of money! I get it, I can feel you judging me. 1814 01:48:26,980 --> 01:48:27,940 That's palpable 1815 01:48:29,020 --> 01:48:30,060 But hey! 1816 01:48:30,860 --> 01:48:32,860 I never said I was the hero of this story 1817 01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:34,880 Hey, hey babe! 1818 01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:36,620 How are we looking? 1819 01:48:37,420 --> 01:48:38,780 ...eigh... ion.. 1820 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:40,640 S-Sorry? 1821 01:48:41,140 --> 01:48:43,360 No, eighty million! - Ok, so eighty million! 1822 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,300 Eighty million, eigthy million, that's good right? 1823 01:48:45,500 --> 01:48:49,680 Eighty is great, no eighty is great, thank you, thank you so much! 1824 01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:51,760 Most of them went to UBS 1825 01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:53,300 You're very lucky! 1826 01:48:53,740 --> 01:48:57,400 The largest bank in France froze it's customer's money-market accounts today 1827 01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:58,400 This thing is hitting Europe! 1828 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,420 Greece and Iceland are finished 1829 01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,060 Spain is teetering 1830 01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:04,120 Are you serious? Fuck! 1831 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,180 Ben call us when you get home! 1832 01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:09,180 But hey, before you go... I'm just wondering... 1833 01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:11,240 Uhm.. 1834 01:49:12,900 --> 01:49:14,740 Why did you do this with us? 1835 01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,340 You didn't have to, and eh.. You know, thank you, but, eh.... 1836 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:21,960 Why? 1837 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,060 You guys said you wanted to get rich! - Now you're rich! 1838 01:49:33,140 --> 01:49:37,860 As the housing-markets and banks continued to hemorrhage, 1839 01:49:37,860 --> 01:49:38,260 only one of the big shorts refused to sell. 1840 01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:39,180 Mark Baum 1841 01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,800 So it was beyond perfect, when he was asked to speak at a conference opposite Bruce Miller 1842 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,660 Famous bull-ish investor 1843 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,120 After he and Mark had their debate 1844 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:55,300 Alan Greenspan, one of the architects of the whole crisis, was scheduled to speak 1845 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,720 Everyone in Mark's office showed up, even invited friends! 1846 01:49:59,740 --> 01:50:03,460 This... was the Ali versus Foreman of the financial world 1847 01:50:03,460 --> 01:50:05,300 Realists versus the fools 1848 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,180 And if it seems almost too perfect... trust me! 1849 01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:09,420 This happened! 1850 01:50:11,540 --> 01:50:13,180 Welcome everyone! 1851 01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,240 Please... Give a generous welcome to... 1852 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,140 Mister Bruce Miller.... and Mark Baum 1853 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,560 Strap yourself in! 1854 01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:46,600 So as some of you may know, Bear-Stearns has just received a loan from J.P. Morgan 1855 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,520 Of course we're gonna have to wait and see just how the markets react 1856 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:53,060 But that should lay to rest any concerns about the bank self! 1857 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:57,480 No, I take it, you have no plans to sell your two-hundred million in Bear-stock 1858 01:50:58,420 --> 01:51:01,700 No, as a matter of fact, when we're done here, I'll probably go out and buy some more! 1859 01:51:03,380 --> 01:51:06,820 For the opposing view... Mister Baum 1860 01:51:09,340 --> 01:51:11,260 I gotta stand for this 1861 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:15,320 Okay, Hi! 1862 01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:18,220 My firms thesis is pretty simple 1863 01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:22,460 Wall-street took a good idea: Lewis Raneiri's mortgage-bonds 1864 01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:26,960 And turned it into an atomic bomb of fraud and stupidity 1865 01:51:27,380 --> 01:51:30,060 That's on it's way to decimating the world economy 1866 01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:31,080 How do you really feel? 1867 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,620 I'm glad you still have a sense of humor! I wouldn't if I were you! 1868 01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:40,340 Now, Anyone who knows me, knows.. 1869 01:51:40,940 --> 01:51:43,980 That I have no problem telling someone they're wrong. 1870 01:51:43,980 --> 01:51:47,220 It's a disaster, it just says here, They got a liquidity-BRAVO 1871 01:51:47,220 --> 01:51:49,460 But for the first time.. In my life.. - Holy fuck! 1872 01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,660 It's not so enjoyable 1873 01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:54,600 We live in an era of fraud in America 1874 01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,460 Not just in banking, but in government 1875 01:51:58,060 --> 01:51:59,800 Education, religion 1876 01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:02,300 Food, even baseball 1877 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:04,860 What bothers me... 1878 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:07,980 Isn't that .. Fraud is not nice 1879 01:52:08,060 --> 01:52:10,240 Or that fraud... is mean 1880 01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,840 It's that .. For fifteen thousand years 1881 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:17,200 Fraud and short-sighted thinking have never ever worked 1882 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,300 Not once, eventually - Jesus 1883 01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:22,020 You'll get caught - We're at thirty-seven 1884 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,260 Things go south! - It's fucking plummeting man, it's fucking plummeting! 1885 01:52:25,260 --> 01:52:26,960 When the hell did we forget all that? 1886 01:52:31,740 --> 01:52:33,960 I thought we were better than this, I really did 1887 01:52:34,460 --> 01:52:35,260 And.. 1888 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,520 The fact that we're not, doesn't make me feel all right and superior! 1889 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,120 It makes me feel... Sad. 1890 01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,440 Everytime i fucking hit refresh it's dropping man - And hope it does goes down! 1891 01:52:46,460 --> 01:52:48,020 And as fun as it is to watch.. 1892 01:52:48,420 --> 01:52:50,840 Pompous dumb Wall-streeters be wildly wrong 1893 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:52,780 And you are wrong sir! 1894 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,300 I just know that at the end of the day 1895 01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:02,380 Average people are going to be the ones, that are going to have to pay for all of this. 1896 01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,520 Because they always, always do! - Thirty-two? 1897 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,880 Shit! It's thirty-two - Yeah it's fucking tanked man 1898 01:53:08,220 --> 01:53:09,700 That's my two cents, thank you! 1899 01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:12,840 I'm gonna drop a deuce at Deutsche 1900 01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:14,500 Does our bull have a response? 1901 01:53:15,980 --> 01:53:18,500 Only that in the entire history of Wall-street, 1902 01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:23,800 No investment-bank has ever failed, unless caught in criminal activities. 1903 01:53:24,380 --> 01:53:27,720 So, yes! I stand by my Bear-Stearns optimism. 1904 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,060 Mister Miller, I'm sorry! Quick question! 1905 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,040 From the time you guys started talking, Bear-Stearns' stock is falling more than thirty-eight percent 1906 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:36,980 Would you still buy more? 1907 01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:38,900 Yeah, sure! 1908 01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:40,880 Ofcourse i'd buy more, why not? 1909 01:53:41,820 --> 01:53:42,640 Boom! 1910 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:51,080 Jesus Christ! - Oh no! That comcludes the first part of our presentation 1911 01:53:52,900 --> 01:53:59,220 Up next, we have the legendary, former, chairman of the FED, Alan Greenspan! 1912 01:53:59,940 --> 01:54:01,780 Folks! 1913 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:23,820 ...employees of Lehman Brothers today, - as the Wall-street giant's stock went to zero! 1914 01:54:23,820 --> 01:54:26,180 The collapse of the venerable New York Bank 1915 01:54:26,180 --> 01:54:32,260 Follows a tumultuous few months of market volatility, and fear for the world economy... 1916 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,480 I gotta see inside 1917 01:54:35,380 --> 01:54:36,020 How? 1918 01:54:37,660 --> 01:54:38,100 Come on 1919 01:54:39,340 --> 01:54:42,400 I left my phone in the office, I threw my pass out already, 1920 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,480 Do you mind if i take your pass? Borrow it? I don't give a shit anymore, you can do what you want! 1921 01:54:54,140 --> 01:54:59,000 Go directly to your transportation, do not talk to the press! - So that's it? After eighteen years! 1922 01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:04,840 Go directly to your transportation, do not talk to the press! - I just leave? That's just fucking great, I can talk to whomever the hell I want! 1923 01:55:04,860 --> 01:55:07,180 Do not talk to the press! 1924 01:55:07,180 --> 01:55:11,160 Go directly to your transportation, do not talk to the 1925 01:55:12,980 --> 01:55:15,140 Hey look, you want to get a bite tonight? There's this ehm... 1926 01:55:15,580 --> 01:55:18,840 This new Cuban place just opened on the Lower East Side, so I suppose we could.. 1927 01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,180 Ah really? - Yeah! 1928 01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:21,860 You and I? 1929 01:55:22,660 --> 01:55:25,380 Yeah and eh.. Other people - That sounds nice! 1930 01:55:25,540 --> 01:55:27,500 Yeah, I would like that, thank you very much! - Finally! 1931 01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,020 Mark, Hey! 1932 01:55:29,780 --> 01:55:30,700 It's a bloodbath up here 1933 01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,700 Morgan's stock has lost half its value, it's down to 23,10 1934 01:55:33,700 --> 01:55:37,060 It's in a free-fall decline, so I wanted to talk to you about pulling their money 1935 01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:39,600 I mean... It's now or never Mark! 1936 01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:41,500 We gotta sell! 1937 01:55:44,940 --> 01:55:45,720 Mark! 1938 01:55:47,820 --> 01:55:49,020 Mark, do you hear me? 1939 01:55:49,020 --> 01:55:53,220 Mailbox #1, You have fifteen messages. 1940 01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,240 Mike I can't seem to get a hold of you, could you please call me at your earliest convenience? 1941 01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,160 It's Jeff, I.. Eh.. You're buying stocks? 1942 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,720 The market is at an all-time low, this is crazy! 1943 01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,720 I met my wife on Match.com 1944 01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:13,060 My profile said that I'm a medical student with only one eye 1945 01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:14,740 An awkward social manner, 1946 01:56:15,340 --> 01:56:18,520 and 145 thousand dollars in student loans 1947 01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:20,500 She wrote back... 1948 01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,000 You're just what I've been looking for! 1949 01:56:23,820 --> 01:56:27,280 She meant honest. So let me be honest... 1950 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,920 The housing-crisis represents the greatest financial opportunity 1951 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,200 Making money is not like I thought it would be. 1952 01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:41,920 This business... Kills the part of life that is essential! The part, that has nothing to do with business 1953 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:50,220 For the past two years, my insides, have felt like they're eating themselves. 1954 01:56:50,860 --> 01:56:52,520 All the people I respected, 1955 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,900 won't talk to me anymore 1956 01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:57,640 Except through lawyers. 1957 01:57:01,940 --> 01:57:02,800 People... 1958 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,800 Want an authority to tell them how to value things, but they choose this authority 1959 01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,080 not based on facts or... results 1960 01:57:13,540 --> 01:57:18,420 They chose it because it seems authoritative... and familiar! 1961 01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:19,440 And... 1962 01:57:20,260 --> 01:57:23,580 I'm not, and never have been.... familiar 1963 01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:26,700 So.. 1964 01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:33,060 So I've come to the solemn realization that I must close down the fund 1965 01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:36,340 Sincerely, Michael J. Burry MD. 1966 01:58:36,940 --> 01:58:38,760 This isn't how I pictured it 1967 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,940 What do you think you'd find? - I don't know 1968 01:58:45,020 --> 01:58:46,060 Grown-ups 1969 01:58:50,420 --> 01:58:51,580 Mark, are you there? 1970 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:55,360 Mark? 1971 01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:59,580 Paulsson and Bernanke just left the White House. 1972 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,180 There's going to be a bail-out 1973 01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:09,320 Well, they had to! 1974 01:59:10,540 --> 01:59:11,000 Right? 1975 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,080 We paid for mortgages with collaterals - They knew! 1976 01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,220 Cash would have stopped coming out the ATM, they had to back-stop this 1977 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:22,840 They knew the tax-payers would bail them out, they weren't stupid, they just didn't care! 1978 01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,760 Yeah, 'cause they're fucking crooks! 1979 01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,620 But, at lest we're gonna see some of them go to jail. 1980 01:59:30,820 --> 01:59:31,800 Right? 1981 01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:33,920 We need to gonna have to break up the banks 1982 01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:38,740 The party is over! - I don't know, I don't know... 1983 01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,500 I have a feeling, that in a few years, people are gonna be doing, 1984 01:59:45,540 --> 01:59:47,740 what they always do when the economy tanks. 1985 01:59:48,980 --> 01:59:52,040 They will be blaming immigrants and poor people. 1986 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:53,540 But Mark was wrong! 1987 01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:56,080 In the years that followed, 1988 01:59:56,180 --> 01:59:59,480 hundreds of bankers and rating-agency's executives went to jail. 1989 01:59:59,580 --> 02:00:01,760 The SEC was completely overhauled 1990 02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,900 and congress had no choice, but to break up the big banks 1991 02:00:04,900 --> 02:00:07,520 and regulate the mortgage and derivative industries 1992 02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:13,720 Just kidding! 1993 02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,280 Banks took the money the American people gave them 1994 02:00:16,340 --> 02:00:18,620 and used it to pay themselves huge bonuses 1995 02:00:18,620 --> 02:00:20,780 and lobby the congress to kill big reform 1996 02:00:21,140 --> 02:00:23,360 and then they blamed immigrants and poor people 1997 02:00:23,580 --> 02:00:24,920 and this time even teachers! 1998 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,960 And when all was said and done, only one single banker went to jail 1999 02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:31,720 This poor schmuck! 2000 02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:34,920 Kareem Serageldin from Credit Suisse 2001 02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,040 He hit a few billion in mortgage-bond losses 2002 02:00:37,180 --> 02:00:40,340 Something most of the big banks did on a good day during the crisis 2003 02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:43,580 Mark, can we sell now? 2004 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,420 I mean the fund will make almost a billion dollars 2005 02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,320 You'll clear two-hundred mill Mark! 2006 02:00:51,460 --> 02:00:53,200 You know... once we sell.. 2007 02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:55,760 We'll be just like the rest of them 2008 02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:57,460 You know that! 2009 02:00:57,860 --> 02:00:59,360 No we're not, we're not the bad guys here! 2010 02:00:59,740 --> 02:01:04,200 We didn't defraud the American people and prey on their dreams of owning a home 2011 02:01:04,340 --> 02:01:05,280 Like they did! 2012 02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:08,300 Now we get to kick em in the teeth! 2013 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:15,840 A billion dollars 2014 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:18,940 That's right! 2015 02:01:19,380 --> 02:01:21,760 But we gotta close out our position, or it could be zero 2016 02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:25,300 I- I- It's now or never, Mark 2017 02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:35,900 Okay. 2018 02:01:39,860 --> 02:01:40,880 Sell it all! 2019 02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:52,000 AnnaGram 2020 02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:55,220 Like what I did with the subtitles? 2021 02:05:55,220 --> 02:05:57,220 Want to do another movie? 2022 02:05:57,440 --> 02:05:59,560 Contact me at AnnaGram.subtitles@gmail.com 2023 02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,560 Makes it a little less tedious....:) 2024 02:06:01,860 --> 02:06:04,180 Bye now! 2025 02:06:04,180 --> 02:06:06,180 Hope you enjoyed the movie!